Do not misunderstand me, I'm glad they didn't just throw cards on a paste, but gave at least something which distinguishing this from the other cardgames on GoG.

But why train? What story/setup constitutes this?

Because you're not freely roaming the skies like an angel.

Still seems pretty reckless, and even dumb from the angel.side,
If they'd just tear up one piece of rail, the quest would be over.

Either way, how did angels end up in Heck?


EDIT: Turns out this is no ordinary train, it brigs its own trails.

The intro movie explains what happened. Heaven froze the Pyre which was the source of fire in Hell. The pyre shard your train is carrying is the last one and can re-ignite the original pyre if you can take it there. Your train is magical and lays down its own tracks or something. The forces of Heaven are trying to stop your train from reaching the Pyre.

I don't really get why we, the player would want to re-ignite Hell though..

Because you, the player, are of Hell. Either a clan leader of sometimes or some other creature of Hell and you want to restore your home back to the way it was before it was conquered by the Angelic Host.
The train is a sort of living entity that creates it's own rails and repairs itself, shifting it's insides as necessary.

I don't think of the game in terms of good vs evil or religion, but rather two sides locked in an eternal battle and one side isn't supposed to win, because if they did they would set their sights on something else to conquer, so it's better to restore Hell.

No. your characters are from Hell.
But why would you, the player, help your characters, aka. play the game, when the goal is the restore The Place Of The Worst Reputation?

Your fanfic might work, but I can come up with a dozen other scenario, starting with this game is a satanist game, and the creators are simply evil.

I'd be interrested in a MANUAL with a short story like Warcratft Orcs And Humans had, or even a novel extra.

Well... Satan isn't mentioned in the game, so I think it would be pretty hard to legitimately argue that it's a satanist game. Besides, we all know Lucifer isn't in Hell anymore, he went on vacation to L.A. and runs a nightclub ;)

Yes, your characters, as in the characters you the player are playing as when you play the game are from Hell so it's your job to restore Hell. I didn't mean to infere that you, the real life person outside of the video game, were from Hell; My apologies if it came off like that.

It plays in Hell. Satan is a given, unless told otherwise.

You also confuse Lucifer with Satan. Dunno where this comes, in the Bible Lucifer was a babylonian king, nothing to do with the supernatural.

And I think you still miss the point.
Of course I don't think you think we, the player come from Hell. But why would a player be inspired to help demons restoring Hell, even if it is "just a game"?
I need some backstory. Like Gawd didn't approve the angels taking over, they are a rogue faction, interfering with the Big Plan.
Or in this universe Hell are the good guys somehow.
Or that the train got crowdfunded by such obviously satanic groups, like atheists, buddhists, yoga-teachers... You know, all who don't like Gawd taking over.
Or even believers in Heaven realised falling to your knees from your chairs forever (as is described in John's Revelations) was a bad idea from the getgo, so they divert Sauron's... I mean Gawd's attention, so the hellish army can reset the status quo.

Or something.

Seriously, I'd give a dollar extra just to know this.

No Satan is not a given just because hell is involved. Hell is a concept that pre-dates Satan and Abrahamic religions and in most including the bible, Satan does not reside in hell, but roams the earth. In mythology, hell can exist without Satan, so unless Satan is specifically mentioned, it would be ani ogical fallacy to assume that this version of hell is associated with Satan or Abrahamic religions without direct evidence in the game's lore.

No, there is no confusion on my part about Lucifer and Satan being related. Yes, it is interpreted that Lucifer is associated with a Babylonian king, but many common (incorrect or not) interpretations throughout history associate Lucifer as being Satan. This is really irrelevant however, as my mention of Lucifer wasn't a debate on the correctness of the association, but a facetious association with a popular culture reference made for the sake of humour.

I haven't missed your point, I just don't see how it's relevant. You're playing a role, and in that role you are trying to restore your homeland, that's your motivation. The back story is that the angelic host seized hell and put out the pyre causing hell to freeze over. You are part of a rebellion with the last shard of the pyre attempting to restore hell. People can pretend to be things they aren't, they can play a role in which they are evil, even if there's no mention of the forces of hell being evil in the game (they are not all demons and are often mentioned as being some what pragmatic or neutral). In fact in the games lore, the forces of heaven are pretty fanatical and brutal and can be interpreted as not being good either.

There is plenty of lore in the game about the forces of heaven and hell and their on going battle, but there is no mention of any 'Gawd' or gods of any type. Heaven is also a mythological concept that pre-dates Abarhamic religions, so it can also exist without need of a 'Gawd'. The inclusion of 'Gawd' and Satan is purely an assumption that comes from viewing the game through a specific lens that has not been intended by the developers. They left Abrahamic references out for a reason.

I understand your point about wanting a motivation for the actions in the game that align with a belief system that you might base your morals on, but there is no indication that the game is about that belief system. I don't believe you are questions why the player would want to help restore hell in the context of the game, plenty of motivation is provided already for that. Perhaps, more specifically, you might be questioning why someon in a particular belief system would be inspired to help Hell. In that case, let me put the philosophy to you it this way: Why would 'Gawd', who created Hell for the souls of the damned to go for punishment for eternity (established in game), want to see Hell extinguished? If the angels extinguished hell, which has caused it to stop functioning in its intended way (also established in game), then this was not 'Gawd's' will (unless you assumed 'Gawd' has changed the purpose of hell), and restoring the pyre is in fact 'Gawd's' will.

Actualy, Hell is post-New Covenant (none made a testimony, right?) concept.
UNDERWORLD AFTERLIFE is what you think of, but EVERYONE went there, and was no Heaven, and no punishment.

And even if you'd be right, and the concept would be ancient (but you are not right), it wouldn't matter, as TODAY the common knowledge is, hell = place of punishment, residence of Satan, place of evil.

Then you come with this nonsense, that "later apologists came up with this extra.biblical, post-biblical theology" crap, which puts you in direct conflict wioth yourself, where you cherrypick "the older is right" when that leads to the conclusion You want, and immediately switch to "the newer one is correct" when that leads to the conclusion which you want, which invalidates you on oh-so-many levels.

I base my morals NOT on any xian concept, or anything related to the game, I merely speaking of general expectation based on cultural background. Thus potential sales.
And the sad fact of the Case Of The Missing Manuals.

Hell as a concept of a place in the afterlife that souls go to to be punished predates new testament christian religions. Even early new testament christian chruch didn't teach it. Dante wrote his visual depictions of hell in the divine comedy based on 1st century BCE greek concepts of a punishing afterlife. The modern concept of hell wasn't established until the 14th centurey medival period.

The underworld as a place that all souls go to in which there is no punishment, such as the greek underworld is not what I'm referring to. Although some underworld concepts included separate spaces for the good and the evil where the evil were punished such is in Egyptian beliefs.

Many concepts of christianity are influenced or based on old pagan beliefs, its the nature of how the religion spread and developed. It is widely accepted by scholars that the new testament version of hell is greatly influenced by both the Egyptian afterlife where the evil are punished and the pagan afterlife which taught of a place of punishment.

I am right that the concept is ancient which can easily be backed up by numerous publications, but you are also right in that it is commonly accepted that the modern religious view hell is a place of punishment, residence of Satan, and a place of evil. However, that is not the only modern commonly accepted interpretation of hell, and there are many other accepted ideas about hell which don't include Satan. It is a logical fallacy to believe that the developers idea of hell is the same as a modern religious view and that Satan exists within their creation without any evidence to support that.

Since there are many works of fantasy similar to this game in which hell is features that doesn't involve Satan, any belief that this game is about or involves a hell as a place of evil and Satan puts the burden of proof on you.

Unfortunately the rest of your argument became a bit incoherent and I couldn't see any further points to argue against I will have to end here, which is quite the distance away from "Why are they travelling on a train?"