Posted May 04, 2025
So as I have mentioned previously it is my opinion that cost reduction is not being applied correctly so i'd like to ask how is this being calculated now and how was it being calculated previously?
The reason I ask is because every time I try to do the calculations I get an answer that is different from both the port and original so clearly I'm missing something more over i was going to build a calculator in excel so that i can double check the build time/cost for each unit and structure to see if there are anymore anomalies.
as for the current x2 and x4 speed, calculations while I take your point about the x2 and x4 algorithm in the original failing to speed up production as much as is possible, I have to wonder if that was in fact deliberate on the part of the original devs because although the math works as we can see below conceptually it just seems wrong for the build cost to increase after applying research that is supposed to make things cheaper.
Materials used per turn
x1 speed 2
x2 speed 8
x4 speed 24
Mine base cost after 10% reduction
x1 speed: base cost 22 materials, build time 11 turns (22/2=11)
x2 speed: base cost x 2 = 44 materials, build time 5.5 turns (44/8=5.5)
x4 speed: base cost x 3 = 66 materials, build time 2.75 turns (66/24=2.75)
x1 100% / 11 turns = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress per turn
x2 100% / 5.5 turns = 18.181818181818181818181818181818% progress per turn
x4 100% / 2.75 turns = 36.363636363636363636363636363636% progress per turn
x2 speed
18.181818181818181818181818181818 x 5 = 90.90909090909090909090909090905% progress
9.0909090909090909090909090909091 x 1 = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress
90.90 + 9.1 = 100%
5 turns at x2 speed at a cost of 40 materiels
1 turn at x1 speed at a cost of 2 materiels
build time 6 turns cost 42 materiels
x4 speed
36.363636363636363636363636363636 x 2 = 72.72727272727272727272727272726% progress
18.181818181818181818181818181818 x 1 = 18.181818181818181818181818181818% progress
9.0909090909090909090909090909091 x 1 = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress
72.72 + 18.18 + 9.1 = 100%
2 turns at x4 speed 48 materiels
1 turn at x2 speed 8 materiels
1 turn at x1 speed 2 materiels
build time 4 turns cost 58 materiels
The reason I ask is because every time I try to do the calculations I get an answer that is different from both the port and original so clearly I'm missing something more over i was going to build a calculator in excel so that i can double check the build time/cost for each unit and structure to see if there are anymore anomalies.
as for the current x2 and x4 speed, calculations while I take your point about the x2 and x4 algorithm in the original failing to speed up production as much as is possible, I have to wonder if that was in fact deliberate on the part of the original devs because although the math works as we can see below conceptually it just seems wrong for the build cost to increase after applying research that is supposed to make things cheaper.
Materials used per turn
x1 speed 2
x2 speed 8
x4 speed 24
Mine base cost after 10% reduction
x1 speed: base cost 22 materials, build time 11 turns (22/2=11)
x2 speed: base cost x 2 = 44 materials, build time 5.5 turns (44/8=5.5)
x4 speed: base cost x 3 = 66 materials, build time 2.75 turns (66/24=2.75)
x1 100% / 11 turns = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress per turn
x2 100% / 5.5 turns = 18.181818181818181818181818181818% progress per turn
x4 100% / 2.75 turns = 36.363636363636363636363636363636% progress per turn
x2 speed
18.181818181818181818181818181818 x 5 = 90.90909090909090909090909090905% progress
9.0909090909090909090909090909091 x 1 = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress
90.90 + 9.1 = 100%
5 turns at x2 speed at a cost of 40 materiels
1 turn at x1 speed at a cost of 2 materiels
build time 6 turns cost 42 materiels
x4 speed
36.363636363636363636363636363636 x 2 = 72.72727272727272727272727272726% progress
18.181818181818181818181818181818 x 1 = 18.181818181818181818181818181818% progress
9.0909090909090909090909090909091 x 1 = 9.0909090909090909090909090909091% progress
72.72 + 18.18 + 9.1 = 100%
2 turns at x4 speed 48 materiels
1 turn at x2 speed 8 materiels
1 turn at x1 speed 2 materiels
build time 4 turns cost 58 materiels
Post edited May 05, 2025 by Cursed-Ghost