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falloutttt: then i'll go back to pirating games.

besides, the only reason i buy games is to support the devs. if the devs do this kind of shit to me, i dont want to support such devs.

I'll be buying games from devs like Larian, and a couple of others that i really want to support. and to hell with every one else. :/
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Lin545: Whats your actual problem with EULAs? They don't "do shit to you", they reserve some rights because they need them, like for transferring changes. Look up what happened to GPL, because it had no such clause. You can easily block any tracking, its not required by EULA and is purely for marketing research. Company like T2 is huge, so its logical to think that they need instruments to understand if their sale campaigns turn successful.

If you dislike the whole model, then there are Free Software games (not "freeware") - but they struggle with own stuff. Its usually about money, sponsorship, if that's secure then they usually shine given some time.

Maybe you need to sleep and drink few coffee cups and do own research into licensing stuff. Its not really hideous. KSP is not DRMed, so long you don't pirate and just play the game, hardly you'll have any problem or difference whatever, as with any other GOG title.

"Buying games to support the devs" is really bad idea with proprietary way... just replace "games" with "video cards" to understand why. It may work with Free Software way like patreon and stuff, but with proprietary - they sell their "product", which is a "limited right" to run their binary. You purchase that right, when you buy the game and which is what you actually want - this thing is in every EULA.
you want to waste your time and read the EULA, learn about it, find ways to block data-mining, etc... that's your thing. i just want to play the fucking game that paid money for.
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falloutttt: then i'll go back to pirating games.

besides, the only reason i buy games is to support the devs. if the devs do this kind of shit to me, i dont want to support such devs.

I'll be buying games from devs like Larian, and a couple of others that i really want to support. and to hell with every one else. :/
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An_dz: To me it's the most sensible action and one others should employ. Companies won't change if their pockets flood with money.

And look how ironic, part 2 of Julia LePetit's "How Every Awful Video Game Thing Was Born" has just released today at Dorkly.

Part 1
Part 2
hahaha! thanks for sharing this! :D

yeah, we created a monster. it's time to change things up...
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falloutttt: you want to waste your time and read the EULA, learn about it, find ways to block data-mining, etc... that's your thing. i just want to play the fucking game that paid money for.
No, YOU want it, if you have problems with EULA. If you don't have problems, then just "play the fucking game that paid money for." Currently only valid concern is marketing research ping to redshell.
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falloutttt: you want to waste your time and read the EULA, learn about it, find ways to block data-mining, etc... that's your thing. i just want to play the fucking game that paid money for.
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Lin545: No, YOU want it, if you have problems with EULA. If you don't have problems, then just "play the fucking game that paid money for." Currently only valid concern is marketing research ping to redshell.
Which, by the way, you can disable by blocking the executable from internet access.

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An_dz: The EULA and the Terms have not changed too much, the only really notable point is that now Take2 can take and use any custom content you create because you waive your rights of it to them, before you actually were the owner.
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Lin545: T2 only has rights on your in-game creations, not mods: stuff like spaceships, screenshots and videos. Very valuable indeed. It needs this right to be able to host them.
Yes, after re-reading this part I noticed it only talks about content generate *by* the games.
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falloutttt: then i'll go back to pirating games.

besides, the only reason i buy games is to support the devs. if the devs do this kind of shit to me, i dont want to support such devs.

I'll be buying games from devs like Larian, and a couple of others that i really want to support. and to hell with every one else. :/
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An_dz: To me it's the most sensible action and one others should employ. Companies won't change if their pockets flood with money.

And look how ironic, part 2 of Julia LePetit's "How Every Awful Video Game Thing Was Born" has just released today at Dorkly.

Part 1
Part 2
lol awesome, thanks for sharing those links! Now, those are funny until you navigate a bit around videogames and see it happening more and more. And about the sell of KSP to T2...urgh! disgusting :S
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falloutttt: you want to waste your time and read the EULA, learn about it, find ways to block data-mining, etc... that's your thing. i just want to play the fucking game that paid money for.
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Lin545: No, YOU want it, if you have problems with EULA. If you don't have problems, then just "play the fucking game that paid money for." Currently only valid concern is marketing research ping to redshell.
Just because it's "standard" for stuff to be sent from my computer without my explicit consent (i.e. opt-in, not out), does not mean it's ok.