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hi...

bought the game in 2014... it seems this game tends to act weird one or twice a year, recenlty it messed up again, i uninstalled the game, installed it again

offline installers:

Jagged Alliance 2 1.12 586 MB

thats all .....

old versions arent available seems they were removed .... this version doesnt work anymore...
check attachment: ja2rundll3263%.jpg

63% ( and it goes up if had not terminated the proces)

so my question is: why does this happen ?

Did M$ disable something ( hidden in the socalled security only patches ) which i had to install
M$ cant be trusted anymore since they went craxy with their Windozer 10 things went bad... just Goolge and see M$ behaving bad ( they were fishy years ago but now its gone from bad to unrepairable)

Idid not update any GPU or CPU drivers or related it has to be M$ who pulled a fast one.
Suppose 50% or more old games we bought dont work anymore , what will happen ? i also noticed very few old games arrived the last 2 years, games that did arrive are shooters / 3d games

Could it be the WOW folder is the cause of all ? seems that folder with its files f.... s up some games , usually the rundll32.exe
since i havent update win7 after M$ messed up by adding dozens of spyware and forceware to force windozer 10 which ruined my pc, i was able to uninstall some nasty KB which turned by PC back to the land of the living, BUT since the M$ is one security leak, i ahd to install the latest 'security' patches, heaven knows wthat those M$ monkey put in the files... ....


Anyway, in the mean time i cant play the game even if i let the game running it will only shutdown my pc because of auto shutdown, the game has become unplayable it doesnt run...
Nice ...... (✖╭╮✖)
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Post edited June 22, 2019 by gamesfreak64
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EDIT:

I decide to Google for the wow and the 32/64 bit folders ....

one of the results:

https://www.samlogic.net/articles/32-64-bit-windows-folder-x86-syswow64.htm

while reading the contents i found this:

The 'System32' folder is for 64-bit files and the 'SysWOW64' folder is for 32-bit files

very good info sofar ...

i continued reading and found this:

The 'Program Files' and 'Program Files (x86)' folders

If you have a 64-bit Windows installed on your computer you have probably already noticed that there exist two folders for program files: the Program Files folder and the Program Files (x86) folder. The Program Files folder is intended for 64-bit programs and the Program Files (x86) folder is intended for 32-bit programs.

In many cases the program will start and run as expected even if you place the program in wrong folder, but if the program asks Windows for the path to the Program Files folder and want to access installed files in the folder, the wrong folder will be used and the program will likely fail to function. So to be sure that everything always works as expected, you should always install files with a specific bitness to the correct Program Files folder. So on a 64-bit computer with a 64-bit Windows, remember this:

• always install a 32-bit program into the Program Files (x86) folder
• always install a 64-bit program into the Program Files folder
i decided to try out:

• always install a 32-bit program into the Program Files (x86) folder
• always install a 64-bit program into the Program Files folder

So uninstalled Ja2 for the 7th time this week :D

I installed the game ( i knew it would not make ANY difference but i could always try)

into the Program Files (x86) folder ............. ( HAHAHAHAHAHAH)

and of course NO GO

check another screenshot: 88% CPU

and : (x86)folder.jpg

Gues what : it did NOT work .... so i dont know what is going on, i tried everything except uninstalling the latest " windows "security" updates , updates that HAD to be installed ... if NOT.... " terrible' things might happen ٩◔‿◔۶

so since my c is almost full i have to uninstall the game cause it doesnt work ans takes almost 1 GB

Anyway, i dont expect any 'solution' to work .. cant test it on other machine cause that will take a while before i have it build ( very expensive)


EDIT: sighes... wrong screenshot ..... from other user
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Post edited June 22, 2019 by gamesfreak64
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gamesfreak64: .
This is VERY serious issue you have there..I've seen it in past..its a example of malicious software called vires.. Untill it goes worse, ASAP format the infected PC, or it will eventually end up in every electric appliance around. I recommend to use a software program called format.com..from Miscrosoft company developer....But not forget to delete all GOG and Steam and other accounts you do have, or vires could be return..the only way to be sure get rid of them..... Just keep try and you will succeed eventually, its still a time left to solve it, dont give up..!!
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gamesfreak64: .
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DarzaR: This is VERY serious issue you have there..I've seen it in past..its a example of malicious software called vires.. Untill it goes worse, ASAP format the infected PC, or it will eventually end up in every electric appliance around. I recommend to use a software program called format.com..from Miscrosoft company developer....But not forget to delete all GOG and Steam and other accounts you do have, or vires could be return..the only way to be sure get rid of them..... Just keep try and you will succeed eventually, its still a time left to solve it, dont give up..!!
Thanks for the funny reply but i dont believe in all the news that always blame one party :D

and my PC is NOT infected dont worry i have KAV :D very good AV .....

EDIT:

this might be the 'offender' :

High CPU usage by WMIPRVSE.EXE process - Microsoft Support

Many users seem to experience problems with this '"service"

High CPU usage by WMIPRVSE.EXE process - Microsoft Support
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/.../high-cpu-usage-by-wmiprvse-exe-process

May 21, 2019 - Symptom. When you use a Windows-based computer, you notice that the Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) Provider Host (WmiPrvSE.exe) process is using high CPU capacity (close to 100 percent) for several minutes every 15 to 20 minutes.
Anyway this "service" is messing up things , this would explain my CPU problems :D
but it does NOT explain why games wont run and run32dll.exe seems to be the cause.
Post edited June 23, 2019 by gamesfreak64
update: installing games is still causing the nasty run32dll.exe to start and us 25% CPU and it goes up
even with more common casualgames the majority of the games are older retailgames, that claim to support win 7, ofcourse they are reffering to 32 bits.


After uninstalling one recent 'security' patch as M$ calls it, the GPU spikes are less frequent so at least one 'security' rollup patch, messed up my windows7 64 bits. The damage done is reduced by a small amount :D ... BUT


Now i have to get rid of the run32dll.exe problem, still cant install ANY of the Jagged Alliance windows setups...the
run32dll.exe will start to heat things up and keyborad/windows becomes unresponsive , had too press the reset button cause it was 100% occupied by cpu usage.

Did several malware and virus checks scanned dozen of files on,even uplodaded some of the 'offending' files to https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload but they show up clean...
Something has f...d up on the pc .... i still think the WMI is the blame .....


Anyway reinstalling the OS is NOT an option , but something is seriously messed up on the windozer 7 ,it has too be M$ fault :D
Post edited June 24, 2019 by gamesfreak64
Okay tried to install the Ja2 game again...

also installed another game, a small casualgame: 1 process for the casualgame installer

and 4 for the Ja2 installer :D

i double checked in case i might had double clicked the installer resulting in 2 installers running,... but ...

if i removed one of the .exe installers and 1 temp proces stayed.... :D ?

99% of every game i installed in the past 30 years had ONE process for the installer :D not 4 :D
i uninstalled a few latest M$ fixes ( socalled "security" fixes ) but the problem stays...

So i tried it again to day ....something must have messed up , cause i cant play the ja2 games .... ( windows versions)

back to the other game i installed a simple casualgame , also uses 25% CPU and up , the box says win7 but no bits , so guess its all 32 bit 'garbage' and that will be the problem i guess, 32 bits games dont run unless you want to risk overheating, i removed the game and installed in the c:' in the x86 folder and result stays the same, games does not run without excessive CPU use , since 99% of all games i own are 32 bits i end up with maybe 10% playable ...
games.
Nice waste of $ cause they all ran a charm on XP ( 32 bits)
Anyway 32 bits OS limits to 8 GIG ram thats why i got a 64 bits win7, and thge win 10 will also be 64 bits guess i am ٩(×̯×)۶
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Post edited June 27, 2019 by gamesfreak64
Much as I dislike people who use M$ as some negative epithet, try this:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/old_games_not_launching_and_eating_100_of_the_cpu_on_windows_7
Post edited June 28, 2019 by ZFR
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ZFR: Much as I dislike people who use M$ as some negative epithet, try this:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/old_games_not_launching_and_eating_100_of_the_cpu_on_windows_7
Out of curiosity: you do realize he got a same solution response (about the original thread about same problem, one that the topicstarter in your link refer with link to in own post) in about 4 hours after his initial spamfest here (already days ago), used that thread with solution to spam too and continued back here again?
Post edited June 28, 2019 by DarzaR
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ZFR: Much as I dislike people who use M$ as some negative epithet, try this:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/old_games_not_launching_and_eating_100_of_the_cpu_on_windows_7
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DarzaR: Out of curiosity: you do realize he got a solution response (about the original thread about same problem, one that the topicstarter in your link refer with link to in own post) in about 4 hours after his initial spamfest here (already days ago), used that thread with solution to spam too and continued back here again?
Not sure I follow. Who got solution where?
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ZFR: Not sure I follow. Who got solution where?
The spammer you answering to is "who".
There https://www.gog.com/forum/jagged_alliance_series/game_runs_slow_under_windows_10/post7 and
there https://www.gog.com/forum/jagged_alliance_series/ja2_113_sluggish_mouse_movement/post4 is "where".
You really didnt bothered to check prior replying? So answer to my question is "no, I didnt realized it" or so then.

Its nice to see how elegantly he ignored the answer to own question provided there, quoted a whole message he "replied" there with some other totally irrelevant spam nonsense he seems to post everywhere, and made the good and useful thread harder to read in result (while kept his problem to himself still). So in summary: trying to help him not only not actually helping him to solve his own problems, but only cause nuisances to others, please be more careful next time, its not a unique case here actually.
Post edited June 28, 2019 by DarzaR
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DarzaR: So in summary: trying to help him not only not actually helping him to solve his own problems, but only cause nuisances to others, please be more careful next time, its not a unique case here actually.
Careful how? He posted a problem here, I posted a link to the solution. I'm not going to follow every thread and see who posted what where.
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ZFR: Careful how? He posted a problem here, I posted a link to the solution. I'm not going to follow every thread and see who posted what where.
Something did forced to you go to one particular topic to reply still. Its a overall good practice to ensure its not a spam/necro fest going on there and also to check other recently updated threads (im agree GOG forums engine is bad in a sense it doesnt show who posted last messages, only threadstarter; but actually its only make that good practice even more important here).
Post edited June 28, 2019 by DarzaR
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ZFR: Careful how? He posted a problem here, I posted a link to the solution. I'm not going to follow every thread and see who posted what where.
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DarzaR: Something did forced to you go to one particular topic to reply still. Its a overall good practice to ensure its not a spam/necro fest going on there and also to check other recently updated threads (im agree GOG forums engine is bad in a sense it doesnt show who posted last messages, only threadstarter; but actually its only make that good practice even more important here).
*This* thread is not a spam or necro. I only replied in *this* thread. On topic. If he's spamming elsewhere, then I didn't reply there.

If I see a thread with a question that I know the solution to I'm going to reply. I'm not going to check the user's life history. If anything, it might help someone else with the same problem.
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ZFR: *This* thread is not a spam or necro. I only replied in *this* thread. On topic. If he's spamming elsewhere, then I didn't reply there.
*This* thread is a spam: he created it after he wrote in 2 separate threads about his problem (thats obviously is spam too), thats why he got 2 identical answers to his problem already (ones i showd above) and after he did got solution links, he spammed the solution topic, then went back here to create a topic you answering in. One you calls "not a spam".

Try to make a very easy thought experiment, it would take about 2 seconds from you, and also will help with
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ZFR: If I see a thread with a question that I know the solution to I'm going to reply. I'm not going to check the user's life history. If anything, it might help someone else with the same problem.
You did post a solution here, ok. Now suppose that spammer will return in a hour and will create a new thread about very same problem of him (we witnessed one iteration of it, it will be a second one). It obviously also will be "a thread with a question that You know the solution to" so" You'll going to reply", right? Third iteration etc will yield same result too, or you will stop eventually?

Small note about misread from you (i think): you dont have to check " the user's life history.", its prefferred, but not required. You have "to check other recently updated threads" instead.
Post edited June 28, 2019 by DarzaR
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ZFR: *This* thread is not a spam or necro. I only replied in *this* thread. On topic. If he's spamming elsewhere, then I didn't reply there.
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DarzaR: *This* thread is a spam: he created it after he wrote in 2 separate threads about his problem (thats obviously is spam too), thats why he got 2 identical answers to his problem already (ones i showd above) and after he did got solution links, he spammed the solution topic, then went back here to create a topic you answering in. One you calls "not a spam".
The only thing close to spam in this thread is post #3. He didn't create a second or third iteration of the thread, just this one. And if anyone comes looking at JA2 forums because his game is not running but using CPU cycles, this is the one he'll look at. Not "sluggish mouse movement" or whatever.

Offtopic posts in other threads are spam? OK. Multiple threads of same problem? Sure. A single thread on a given problem? No.

Have a good day, I'm done here.
Post edited June 28, 2019 by ZFR