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Playing IWD1 Classic (not the Enhanced Edition) for the first time. Diggin' it!

I just cleared the Hall of Heroes, getting ready to go on to Wyrm's Tooth. Before moving on, I consulted a walkthrough, to be sure I didn't miss anything.

The walkthrough says there should be a "Blessed Helm of Lathander". Man! does this look like a nice helm. Yet I don't see it anywhere in the Hall.

Anybody find (or not find) this particular magic Helm? It'd look great on my Cleric!
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CFM: Playing IWD1 Classic (not the Enhanced Edition) for the first time. Diggin' it!

I just cleared the Hall of Heroes, getting ready to go on to Wyrm's Tooth. Before moving on, I consulted a walkthrough, to be sure I didn't miss anything.

The walkthrough says there should be a "Blessed Helm of Lathander". Man! does this look like a nice helm. Yet I don't see it anywhere in the Hall.

Anybody find (or not find) this particular magic Helm? It'd look great on my Cleric!
It's in a coffin in Terikan's tomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abHn4gMsLqE&t=132
Post edited February 11, 2018 by Hickory
Thanks for your post Hickory! Hope you are well.

It is just so strange. That container only had a Potion of Insulation in my game. (I'm using the GOG version of IWD.)

I might just cheat the helm in. Doesn't seem to be many headgears in the game.

Anyways, thanks again for your reply. Take care.
Post edited February 11, 2018 by CFM
IWD1 uses a random loot system. Some items won't show up in every run
Post edited February 12, 2018 by gnarbrag
Thanks for your post gnarbrag (great name, btw). A few of the walkthroughs seemed to indicate that this wasn't one of the random loots, but perhaps it is. It'd be one heck of a random variance: that Helm versus a Potion of Insulation. Talk about gettin' jipped! I already missed out on the Elven Chain Mail armors!

So anyways, I cheated (just) the Helm into my game. The funny part is how guilty I feel doing this, like I killed the integrity of my current game. Being nuts is never easy.
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CFM: Thanks for your post gnarbrag (great name, btw). A few of the walkthroughs seemed to indicate that this wasn't one of the random loots, but perhaps it is. It'd be one heck of a random variance: that Helm versus a Potion of Insulation. Talk about gettin' jipped! I already missed out on the Elven Chain Mail armors!
Personally, I happen to dislike it when a game has a finite amount of random loot, or of certain types of random loot.

This is, in fact, one of my criticisms of Wizardry 8, despite it being one of my favorite games.

Incidentally, I believe the Icewind Dale Tweak Pack has a tweak that replaces every random treasure with a special item that can be turned into any of the random treasures that could appear in that spot, so if you're willing to play a modified version of the game, that is an option.
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CFM: Thanks for your post gnarbrag (great name, btw). A few of the walkthroughs seemed to indicate that this wasn't one of the random loots, but perhaps it is. It'd be one heck of a random variance: that Helm versus a Potion of Insulation. Talk about gettin' jipped! I already missed out on the Elven Chain Mail armors!

So anyways, I cheated (just) the Helm into my game. The funny part is how guilty I feel doing this, like I killed the integrity of my current game. Being nuts is never easy.
The containers are *not* randomized, at least not the two you mention. Container 4 has the Potion of Insulation. Container 9 has the Blessed Helm of Lathander. There are 12 containers. Only container 1 has random loot.

Check Near Infinity for confirmation.
Post edited February 13, 2018 by Hickory
Ah so those containers are not randomized.

The link in your first post, to that youtube video, was very helpful, as it shows that I was definitely looking at the right container for the Helm. (I'm probably not remembering correctly exactly which container I got the Potion.) I even used the ALT key to highlight the clickables onscreen, in case maybe I picked it up and dropped it on accident, or something. But man, that Helm is nowhere to be found in my current game.

Ah well, the mysteries of Dorn's Deep. #GETYOURCHEATON
Post edited February 13, 2018 by CFM
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dtgreene: Personally, I happen to dislike it when a game has a finite amount of random loot, or of certain types of random loot.

This is, in fact, one of my criticisms of Wizardry 8, despite it being one of my favorite games.

Incidentally, I believe the Icewind Dale Tweak Pack has a tweak that replaces every random treasure with a special item that can be turned into any of the random treasures that could appear in that spot, so if you're willing to play a modified version of the game, that is an option.
Yeah I agree. I like it when it's all random (thinking Diablo 1-2), or when it's never random (thinking Baldur's Gate 1-2), but the semi-random in IWD feels less enhancing, and more nerve-wracking.

That Tweak Pack tweak is a great idea... but I usually play these games "vanilla", the way the designers had intended, etc. Hell man, I feel mentally unstable just cheatin' this one missing Helm into my game.

(Although if I ever get time to play this again, I might try that IWD NPC mod written by Kulyok. After playing the other Bioware Infinity Engine games, it really feels like something's missing in IWD with no NPCs.)
Post edited February 13, 2018 by CFM
Sorry for resurrecting this topic, but I know exactly why you had this problem. In one faq the guy tell you to go to one of the tombs after you defeat the lich and get the key from the oven. The problem with the helm is that there are two containers superimposed (one put on top of another) and one of those is where the helm is. I think you have to get all the treasuries, close the container and open it again.

There is another thing with this area, you get another of the same random treasury from the area before and not the last one where you could get long bow +3: repeater or long bow +3: defender, or maybe they removed it with the expansion (they removed a lot of "not balanced" items from random treasuries from the vanilla game -no expansion-).