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Ce jeu a été financé a l'aide du CNC et du ministère de l'économie Française et il n'y a pas de voix en Français..

Alors oui, j'aurais du penser à vérifier le magasin car sur la page gog c'est effectivement indiqué, seulement je ne pouvais pas penser qu'une boite française produisant un jeu cofinancé par les institutions française nous ponderais un truc en anglais uniquement.

Essayez d'imaginer la même chose aux US. C'est incroyable et minable.

J'ai fait un paquet d'achat que j'ai regretté mais je n'avais encore jamais demandé de remboursement, ce sera une première.
Alors là... c'est le pompon ! :-(
Ah oui d'accord.. le studio est français en plus...
Comme d'hab dans ce pays : règle numéro un : allez pleurer à gauche et à droite pour racler un peu de sous...
Le CNC ne demande pas de contrepartie "francophone" , un minimum ???
Chapeau les gars.... bien joué !
C'est beau la création.... mais le CNC claque pas mal, quand même ..
Vu sur wiki " Le rapport Marini du budget 2011 au Sénat critique la gestion et l'augmentation des dépenses de différents organismes parapublics, parmi ceux-ci figure, en bonne place, le CNC. "
Post edited December 04, 2020 by rogerT
First of all, take a chill pill both of you and stop overreacting.

The game bakers is not a triple A studio which means they probably had to cut some expenses in the process and I imagine hiring voice talent to record 80000 lines (I think I read it's somewhere around that ballpark) of voice acting it's not given.
And to be fair English is somewhat of a language standard in the industry.

If you look what they have achieved with this game, it's something spectacular. A beautiful product of love and art and pretty slick gameplay. Can we not appreciate it for it's merits and stop concentrating on the fact that it lacks french audio while it has been partly funded by CNC. I mean for what it's worth I think CNC is getting it's money's worth just by getting exposure on supporting a budding studio with great talent and a great game to show for it.

I'm of finnish origin and I never thought about throwing a tantrum because remedy didn't produce finnish audio tracks for their games albeit them being finnish.

I mean for argument's sake, if the game bakers weren't a french studio, then how would you then feel about this game?
Post edited December 07, 2020 by sfasta
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sfasta: First of all, take a chill pill both of you and stop overreacting.

The game bakers is not a triple A studio which means they probably had to cut some expenses in the process and I imagine hiring voice talent to record 80000 lines (I think I read it's somewhere around that ballpark) of voice acting it's not given.
And to be fair English is somewhat of a language standard in the industry.

If you look what they have achieved with this game, it's something spectacular. A beautiful product of love and art and pretty slick gameplay. Can we not appreciate it for it's merits and stop concentrating on the fact that it lacks french audio while it has been partly funded by CNC. I mean for what it's worth I think CNC is getting it's money's worth just by getting exposure on supporting a budding studio with great talent and a great game to show for it.

I'm of finnish origin and I never thought about throwing a tantrum because remedy didn't produce finnish audio tracks for their games albeit them being finnish.

I mean for argument's sake, if the game bakers weren't a french studio, then how would you then feel about this game?
First of all thank you for caring about my nerves but don't worry as i'm actually pretty calm so there is no need for your patronizing tone.

Second, you don't seem to know how this industry really work. Most if not all the money they got from the kickstarter are usually a mean to get "real fund" via an editor or in this case the official organization i already spoke about.(most kickstarter and other backer oriented campaign are working like this)

And the CNC doesn't care about having more visibility, search for yourself why and how. (shouldn't take your more than a few second, which you obviously didn't do)

The next time you wan't to defend someone or something, instead of being contemptuous and haughty, try to at last make a few search to see how the world "really" works and why people do make complain.
Do we have any details about how the game was funded? Maybe the CNC part was minimal. I agree with sfasta about the potential cost of more voiceover (more so if we take account of its quality).

We can't say much more as long as we don't have the percentage of contribution from each investor.

Beside, the purpose of CNC is to promote the french audiovisual industry, not the french language itself. This may explain that.
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sfasta: First of all, take a chill pill both of you and stop overreacting.

The game bakers is not a triple A studio which means they probably had to cut some expenses in the process and I imagine hiring voice talent to record 80000 lines (I think I read it's somewhere around that ballpark) of voice acting it's not given.
And to be fair English is somewhat of a language standard in the industry.

If you look what they have achieved with this game, it's something spectacular. A beautiful product of love and art and pretty slick gameplay. Can we not appreciate it for it's merits and stop concentrating on the fact that it lacks french audio while it has been partly funded by CNC. I mean for what it's worth I think CNC is getting it's money's worth just by getting exposure on supporting a budding studio with great talent and a great game to show for it.

I'm of finnish origin and I never thought about throwing a tantrum because remedy didn't produce finnish audio tracks for their games albeit them being finnish.

I mean for argument's sake, if the game bakers weren't a french studio, then how would you then feel about this game?
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Lytel: First of all thank you for caring about my nerves but don't worry as i'm actually pretty calm so there is no need for your patronizing tone.

Second, you don't seem to know how this industry really work. Most if not all the money they got from the kickstarter are usually a mean to get "real fund" via an editor or in this case the official organization i already spoke about.(most kickstarter and other backer oriented campaign are working like this)

And the CNC doesn't care about having more visibility, search for yourself why and how. (shouldn't take your more than a few second, which you obviously didn't do)

The next time you wan't to defend someone or something, instead of being contemptuous and haughty, try to at last make a few search to see how the world "really" works and why people do make complain.
I'm happy to hear that you are calm. I wasn't trying to come out as patronizing I was merely suggesting that maybe your reaction to lack of localized audio in the game was a bit harsh. To the point that you would even demand a refund of the game.

Maybe they didn't go after bigger investors because they wanted to keep creative control to themselves as well as the flexibility for the development since they don't need the approval rounds from multiple investors. The cultural financing most likely does't come with such strings attached so it's safe for their independence as developers to accept such funding.

And sure you are absolutely right that CNC doesn't need visibility per se but in any case they are just doing their job promoting and supporting audiovisual arts in France.

I'm not here to wage war, i'm just trying to make you guys reconsider giving the game another chance even with the language shortcoming.
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sfasta: I mean for argument's sake, if the game bakers weren't a french studio, then how would you then feel about this game?
Most of your comments were right on spot, Sfasta, clear and correct (as far as I know), but that remark was golden ^^... I can't remember how many fellow gamers coming from less fortunate (or just less popular) parts of the world I've already read talking about that subject and yes, most of them don't even start imagining translations (not even thinking about voice overs !) to their mother tongues. But well, I guess Asia (except China), India or the whole African continent don't come fist in the minds of most people around here... That said, being mostly of british origins and living in France, I do (sincerely) sympathize with the desire of those who would prefer their games (fully) in french - which I enjoy a lot. And if that 'english standard' wouldn't lean that much towards american idioms, it would sound even better to my hears. Oh well, let's enjoy the present, shall we ^^ ?
I can't answer Neity's question (regarding the CNC's participation), but one of my half-brothers works in this field and I do know (through him) how little those funds usually are. Qualifying them as "minimal" would (most often) be appropriate... And no, indeed, they also don't come with many obligations, except having a solid well documented project contributing to the visility of a given industry... Which this game does, and in a lovely manner I may add ! Plus, it does boast (very decent) french (written) dialogs after all...

So I can only back your advice : that game is beautiful, yes ! Simple, accessible, and yet very (consistently) engaging... I hope everyone who reads this will give it a try, even with a poor understanding of the (enjoyable) voice acting. It's (quite) unique style piqued my interest instantly, even before watching any video... and it's been ages since the last time I felt compeled to buy a game at full price.
Post edited December 10, 2020 by Zaephir-Moth
I'm not mad at this studio.. non non. And I don't take any pills, thanks.

You know what is funny with this post ??
It seems that we are all arguing in English, about a game made by a French studio, with text and audio in English only ... and we all live in France ! Funny, no ?? :-)

In few years we won't argue at all about this problem: we will either speak and read English... or Chinese ! LOL !

Anyway, regarding this game , yes it seems a find a game, BUT...
As my usual rule, i'll wait 3 or 4 months before buying it.
That way, this game will be fully patched and optimized (I hope...).
Post edited December 09, 2020 by rogerT
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rogerT: It seems that we are all arguing in English, about a game made by a French studio, with text and audio in English only ... and we all live in France ! Funny, no ?? :-)
No, Haven's adventure (and interface obviously) is available in french, as far as texts are concerned. Lytel's complaints refered only to the lack of proper dubbing...
As for us and though I do enjoy using french too ^^, it's just standard practice on an international forum to use the most suitable language available for everyone.
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rogerT: As my usual rule, i'll wait 3 or 4 months before buying it.
That way, this game will be fully patched and optimized (I hope...).
I haven't finished it (yet !), but every aspect of it seemed rock-solid for now, especially considering the (very old) age of my gaming rig. But I usually agree with your "usual rule", which remains pretty wise in most cases ^^...
Héllo tous le monde.

HO SAURRY... ay pencède être in Frainche forhume.
Baï sinsaurry désolède !
Post edited March 19, 2021 by LinuxFire
sacre bleu ! médelo !!
:-)