Wow at lvl 5 I saw something in my current quests about Lobart's clothes, so I went to his farm to talk about it. He pulled a knife and wanted to cut me! Dang I must have forgotten to pay him for the clothes before I took them from his chest. I don't want to restart just for that, but is his anger going to be a problem later for any reason? Is there any way I can make it up to him?

That hasn't ever happened to me with Lobart but in my experience you just need to beat up a character who attacks you over some shit you have done and everything will work out just fine.

A few moments of looking into the scripts: So basically, if Lobart's chest doesn't contain the clothes, you have NOT bought them from him and you're guildless, he'll start this "conversation" with you. There are a few minor changes dependant of the facts if you've got them equipped (he'll say he can't believe his eyes) and if you're are working for him right now (he'll call you a lazy scoundrel), but there are basically three options for you:

a) give the clothes to him (if you have them)
b) tell him you don't have them (logically, if you don't have them)
c) tell him to piss off.

If you choose A, you should be able to buy them back from him normally; B and C lead to a fight.

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Anyway, if you have the clothes and have a save before him getting angry, you can try to put them back into his chest or approach him and give him the clothes back, buy it and take them again; or you can join a guild, but the quest will probably stay in your quest log for a while; or anyway, a good beating and/or a scroll of Oblivion work most of the time. :P

Thanks helpo. I will try a beating and/or Oblivion. And I promise to buy them honestly on my next playthrough. :p

BTW, you probably know you can get a discount by helping Lobart, Hilda, Vino and Maleth, but since he doesn't comment on this, many people don't know that you also get another -10gp discount if you tell him you're with the peasants in the beginning -> it makes Lobart_AgainstKing == TRUE. This is the only way to get them the cheapest, just for 30 gold pieces if you help all the people.

PS: I found Lobart's DIA script online, but it's in German. You can take a look if you wish.

What's nice about this game is that you can steal the clothes and beat these people up and the game doesn't dead end. Rob them and then you can sneak into the town another way and zero damns will be given.

This game is just ripe with opportunities for dishonesty. It would feel weird to play it straight-laced the whole way through. There's so much money to be made (or not spent)!

Agreed. There's so much fun to be had with it you'd be missing out on a lot. The developers spent a lot of time writing dialogue and scenarios to take into account the player taking a sneaky approach to a problem too.

Getting into the city at the start has several approaches alone and slight variations within that.


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Most impressive to me was that they even took into account the player finding a way to get past all the obstacles and into the sea, swim around and come into the city via the port, where an NPC will remark upon it and you get awarded XP, showing the developers even took this unlikely event into account
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A "straight laced" run could be a goal for a later playthrough though. I'd bet money would be very tight and the player might even miss out on a lot of loot and XP as well as some of the funnier moments.

He'll likely beat YOU up that early in the game :)

He did, the first time. Then I got him the second time.

That brings up a thought/question. I'm a very conservative player (I run a lot :) ) so avoid those sorts of fights. If you had played on, would he have forgiven you the same way as he would if you had won? I haven't experienced it but I'm thinking one of the others following this thread probably knows.