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Hello

This is annoying... when playing Gothic 2, my mouse seems to have a 'dead zone'. This means if I move the mouse a little to the left or right, the character doesn't move. It only moves if I make a quick movement, or a small movement after moving my mouse a long way either left or right.

What makes this especially strange is that I just finished Gothic 1 after 25 hours and it was fine.

To be clear; the issue isn't with the turning speed or the sensitivity. I've already spent over an hour trying multiple .ini file changes. There's just a dead zone in which the character will not respond. It's pretty annoying, especially after playing through the entirety of G1 in a perfectly playable way.

If it also helps, I'm using a G9X (I tried with and without Logitech drivers, but I doubt it should matter since once again I'll say that G1 worked fine)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Edit: I just noticed that so far:

zSmoothMouse=0

Is the best solution I can come up with. It doesn't feel great, but at least I get a response maybe 60% of the time.
Post edited April 18, 2013 by Coflash
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Nobody?

I want to play this more than anything :(
Hey,

The only thing I know for certain is what happened to me, and it was exactly the problem you describe.
First time the problem disappeared when they released some updates to Win XP (back then), and then again some update to Win 7 (which I'm using now).

Those updates included drivers for my video card I had back then.

Try to update video card drivers, or run the game in compatibility mode (win XP, or Vista) and see if it helps. Also, I think we might find a faster solution if you could post your system specification.
And another thing: if you suspect it might be a mouse problem, try looking into its control panel and see if there's a hardware acceleration option, and try changing values, see if it works.

Nothing else comes to mind, as I'm in a hurry at the moment, but I'll check back later on.
Thanks for the reply. Since my initial post I have tried the following:

I wiped Windows 7 and am now on a fresh install of Windows 8. The exact same issue still occurs. I had to fix one W8 issue with fullscreen mode but that's now sorted.

GPU drivers are always up to date

I tried 2 other mice, same issue, so it's not the G9X

I tried disabling acceleration/pointer precision, nothing changed

I tried compatibility settings as well, but they don't help either.

In the end (to get it to be semi-playable) I had to put the DPI to an insane value and lower the turn speed. This isn't ideal, but it's the best I can do for now.

Specs: i7 2600K, 16GB RAM, GTX580, running on a SSD. Mice I have tried are a G9X, a Microsoft Basic Optical mouse and a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse.

Again, it's really doing my head in that Gothic 1 feels superior in every way, I don't understand what change between the games is causing this :/
Hey,

1. I found this somewhere around here, on GOG:

"I fixed it by opening up the GOTHIC.INI file in the "Gothic 2 Gold/system" directory. Way down in the file there is a section with the heading [ENGINE]

Look for the line

zMouseRotationScale=2.0

I changed my value to

zMouseRotationScale=8.0

and the mouse is totally useable in game now. "

Some other guy said: "Disable "Enhance pointer precision" option in windows mouse options.", but he was referring to a Razer mouse.

2. You can also check this website, maybe it helps: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Gothic

OK, off to work now.
Post edited April 19, 2013 by kojocel
Tried both of those already

zMouseRotationScale will make you turn faster, but it doesn't get rid of the dead zone.

Here's a video I made to explain my problem, watch how my hand is moving but the character is not, the character will only move every now and then or on quick movements, it just doesn't respond to the mouse at all times.

http://youtu.be/Fxc8LRIot54

I just noticed too, in the video, the vertical mouse movement is perfect, it's only to the left and right that is problematic.
I hadn't noticed this particular issue before, probably because I've often used Q and E for turning to get around the overall low mouse sensitivity (I sometimes play with a controller with similarly positive results). These are both viable alternatives to mouse control but neither fixes the issue with the mouse itself.

You can probably set your mouse so that it disables "pointer precision" (meaning no variable speed) while running Gothic II, which could help, but that and the zSmoothMouse tweak are about the best you can do.
Hm,

I was a bit wrong about the issue that happened to me (now that I saw your video). It looks as if it's a mouse problem, if you ask me. I'll do some more digging around and see if I can find something useful to you.

Cheers.
Again though, the issue persists with any mouse I try

Can anyone else test the game to see if their mouse reacts the same way? If subtle movements aren't registered? (even though they are in G1)

Maybe there's a way to bind mouse movement to the right and left the exact way that left/right are bound on the keyboard... that's what I'll try next
This'll do....

By default my mouse DPI is 400, so I've set it to 5000. Yep, 5000. Now it barely ever misses, I just have to set it each time I play along with some options in the ini file to really low values to compensate

Thanks for all the suggestions though!
Post edited April 19, 2013 by Coflash