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Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
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UK_John: Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
I'm not sure I understand. You said... "if I install from Galaxy...", to me, it would make sense you'd already be comfortable for the shortcut to open Galaxy first? For a full, certain DRM-free experience, you can always install the games manually through the installation files on GOG website.

BUT... did that behaviour also not happen on GOG Galaxy 1.0? I actually don't remember.
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UK_John: Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
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GenlyAi: I'm not sure I understand. You said... "if I install from Galaxy...", to me, it would make sense you'd already be comfortable for the shortcut to open Galaxy first? For a full, certain DRM-free experience, you can always install the games manually through the installation files on GOG website.

BUT... did that behaviour also not happen on GOG Galaxy 1.0? I actually don't remember.
It did happen before 2.0 (but in 1.0 it didn't do it), but I expected 2.0 to fix it., because I thought they would realize that GOG would look good to all its new Galaxy owners, by being the only games that you installed from an app (like Steam and Ubisoft, etc) like Galaxy is, without having to open it thereafter.

Because running a Ubisoft or UPlay game opens their app just like Galaxy opens for games installed from Galaxy, so how's it better? Hence, my original comment.
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GenlyAi: I'm not sure I understand. You said... "if I install from Galaxy...", to me, it would make sense you'd already be comfortable for the shortcut to open Galaxy first? For a full, certain DRM-free experience, you can always install the games manually through the installation files on GOG website.

BUT... did that behaviour also not happen on GOG Galaxy 1.0? I actually don't remember.
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UK_John: It did happen before 2.0 (but in 1.0 it didn't do it), but I expected 2.0 to fix it., because I thought they would realize that GOG would look good to all its new Galaxy owners, by being the only games that you installed from an app (like Steam and Ubisoft, etc) like Galaxy is, without having to open it thereafter.

Because running a Ubisoft or UPlay game opens their app just like Galaxy opens for games installed from Galaxy, so how's it better? Hence, my original comment.
Gotcha. I understand now.

I'd consider then a feature request for GOG Galaxy 2.0.

Keep in mind also the fact that when you go to 'settings' -> 'features', they are kinda already considering 'running client' options, including, at the very least, closing other launchers once you quit their game. But that'd have to be done (as in run the game) through GOG, as far as I know of their programming. Not really what you're asking for, but at least a step in the right direction, in my opinion.
Post edited October 18, 2019 by GenlyAi
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UK_John: It did happen before 2.0 (but in 1.0 it didn't do it), but I expected 2.0 to fix it., because I thought they would realize that GOG would look good to all its new Galaxy owners, by being the only games that you installed from an app (like Steam and Ubisoft, etc) like Galaxy is, without having to open it thereafter.

Because running a Ubisoft or UPlay game opens their app just like Galaxy opens for games installed from Galaxy, so how's it better? Hence, my original comment.
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GenlyAi: Gotcha. I understand now.

I'd consider then a feature request for GOG Galaxy 2.0.

Keep in mind also the fact that when you go to 'settings' -> 'features', they are kinda already considering 'running client' options, including, at the very least, closing other launchers once you quit their game. But that'd have to be done (as in run the game) through GOG, as far as I know of their programming. Not really what you're asking for, but at least a step in the right direction, in my opinion.
Nice to have a "grown up" conversation when it comes to gaming. It seems to be happening less and less with many of today's gamers.
I'm confused. It's not DRM, it's just a shortcut that opens Galaxy instead of the actual game. You can just link it or do a shortcut directly to the .exe and it won't open Galaxy. I don't use Galaxy, and importing my Gog library into 2.0 was just pointing it to my install locations and it added them.

Funny enough, Epic has given away quite a few free games so far, and a good number of them have been DRM free in the same fashion. If you link directly to the executable it doesn't open EGS.
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GenlyAi: Gotcha. I understand now.

I'd consider then a feature request for GOG Galaxy 2.0.

Keep in mind also the fact that when you go to 'settings' -> 'features', they are kinda already considering 'running client' options, including, at the very least, closing other launchers once you quit their game. But that'd have to be done (as in run the game) through GOG, as far as I know of their programming. Not really what you're asking for, but at least a step in the right direction, in my opinion.
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UK_John: Nice to have a "grown up" conversation when it comes to gaming. It seems to be happening less and less with many of today's gamers.
Thank you! I always try to understand all points of view! :)

That said, I can't exactly reproduce what you first posted, but I may need more info. So, I install a GOG game through GOG Galaxy, close GOG Galaxy completely (even checking the 'task manager' - I'm on Windows - to make sure nothing Galax-y lingered on), I was still able to open the game ( as the .exe or link to it) without having it first opened GOG Galaxy. The games managed to run just fine on their own. If that was not your case, then then I'd consider that a bug and you could submit a 'report issue' listing the games where you had that problem.

The problem is (and perhaps will always have to be) games installed through GOG Galaxy, but if they come from other platform/games other than GOG, like Steam or UPlay. Then, there's no magic GOG can do (for most games): a Uplay game, for example, would open Galaxy (if not already opened), then Uplay, then the game itself!
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UK_John: if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM.
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UK_John: I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop
Congratulations, you accused something of being DRM and then disproved yourself all within one post!
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UK_John: Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
Still not DRM. Game will play offline, will play regardless of the presence of Galaxy. It will play with or without.

Seriously, do people not know what DRM actually is?
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UK_John: Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
I agree with you John.

I am sure many others agree!
Yeah, an option to create a GOG-less shortcut when downloading via Galaxy would be nice. Especially for older games.

I recently played "I Have No Mouth..." and it felt weird digging into the game's folder to find an exe for creating a shortcut. The game does not need a client for anything other than conveniently downloading it. I doubt it'll ever get a patch and cloud saves are not supported.
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makwikus2: Yeah, an option to create a GOG-less shortcut when downloading via Galaxy would be nice. Especially for older games.

I recently played "I Have No Mouth..." and it felt weird digging into the game's folder to find an exe for creating a shortcut. The game does not need a client for anything other than conveniently downloading it. I doubt it'll ever get a patch and cloud saves are not supported.
I'm sorry, I try to be understanding.... but it takes seconds to find the game's folder and its exe, after installing it trough GOG. And I'm saying again... there's always the option to download the installers manually, then you'll probably have an option to create the shortcut, to, say, the desktop at some point of the installation.

I think I missed the point again...?
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makwikus2: Yeah, an option to create a GOG-less shortcut when downloading via Galaxy would be nice. Especially for older games.

I recently played "I Have No Mouth..." and it felt weird digging into the game's folder to find an exe for creating a shortcut. The game does not need a client for anything other than conveniently downloading it. I doubt it'll ever get a patch and cloud saves are not supported.
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GenlyAi: I'm sorry, I try to be understanding.... but it takes seconds to find the game's folder and its exe, after installing it trough GOG. And I'm saying again... there's always the option to download the installers manually, then you'll probably have an option to create the shortcut, to, say, the desktop at some point of the installation.

I think I missed the point again...?
Convenience is the point. Of my post and GOG Galaxy 2.0. Manually navigating to a game's EXE or downloading the installer via website are not it.
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UK_John: Because if I install from Galaxy, the shortcut wants to open Galaxy first, just like Steam, Ubisoft or UPlay! Which to me is DRM. I don't buy from GOG for DRM, so I can either delete the shortcut, go to the install folder, create a shortcut from the Exe to the desktop, or manually install from GOG.

Now, I have looked for an option to install without open Galaxy, but I can't find anything. So i'll stick with manual installing.
Dude, why do you even install galaxy then? Just download the setups and be gone! XP
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Zoidberg: Dude, why do you even install galaxy then? Just download the setups and be gone! XP
Not all people have fast connections and the options for downloading without galaxy are limited and some prone to fail without restarting. Galaxy acts as a downloader as well as a client, but all links to the game port through galaxy first instead of just the game, unless you configure things manually.