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yowshi: if the option of downloading games without it goes out the window, well that's going to be an issue.
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obliviondoll: If the option of getting your DRM-free games actually DRM-free (and yes, locking them to requiring the launcher is DRM) is removed, then I will be far from being alone in getting a complete refund of my entire GOG game library the moment they make that change.

There is no way they'll do that, because they will have to pay out a LOT of refunds (and no, "store credit" won't be legally-valid since they're no longer providing any product equivalent to what they're removing). It's a literal non-option by the nature of how the platform has been marketing itself because they would actively lose so much by doing so.
That sounds like class action. So I would suppose that at least the website will remain, just to keep that from happening.

I just did a search. GoG is out of Poland. I'm not sure if that is why they are at the state they are right now or not.

I'm not sure class action applies to them?
Post edited May 05, 2020 by Kohleran
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obliviondoll: If the option of getting your DRM-free games actually DRM-free (and yes, locking them to requiring the launcher is DRM) is removed, then I will be far from being alone in getting a complete refund of my entire GOG game library the moment they make that change.

There is no way they'll do that, because they will have to pay out a LOT of refunds (and no, "store credit" won't be legally-valid since they're no longer providing any product equivalent to what they're removing). It's a literal non-option by the nature of how the platform has been marketing itself because they would actively lose so much by doing so.
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Kohleran: That sounds like class action. So I would suppose that at least the website will remain, just to keep that from happening.

I just did a search. GoG is out of Poland. I'm not sure if that is why they are at the state they are right now or not.

I'm not sure class action applies to them?
I never said anything about class action or even lawsuits in general. For the vast majority of gamers, the entire content of any individual's library would be within the upper limits of most small claims courts or equivalent method of resolving such a dispute. If you approached GOG and said "I want a refund on everything because you have implemented DRM in violation of your DRM-free promise", there would be strong arguments in favour of them just giving you the refund without question. If they tried to refuse it with any reason other than "we've already decided to roll this mistake back" OR if they promise to roll it back then fail to do so within a reasonable timeframe, you go to small claims court and depending on the locality, you're getting your full refund up to a maximum of something like $10,000 or $30,000 or maybe even $50,000 in some places. So in a worst-case scenario, you get a refund of at least 160 games, which is pretty good and won't rely on them being based in any particular location because they're still doing business in your country by definition because if they weren't, you wouldn't own any games through the platfform.

It also helps that Poland is part of the EU and as a whole, EU consumer protection law is generally BETTER about protecting consumers than US law. So being based in Poland doesn't magically insulate them from consumer rights violations, and in fact makes them more vulnerable to such claims than US-based companies are likely to be (although many regions have managed to uphold their own laws being applied to Steam so even that doesn't make you safe if you're willing to sell outside your country).
Post edited May 05, 2020 by obliviondoll
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Kohleran: That sounds like class action. So I would suppose that at least the website will remain, just to keep that from happening.

I just did a search. GoG is out of Poland. I'm not sure if that is why they are at the state they are right now or not.

I'm not sure class action applies to them?
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obliviondoll: ...ed in Poland doesn't magically insulate them from consumer rights violations, and in fact makes them more vulnerable to such claims than US-based companies are likely to be (although many regions have managed to uphold their own laws being applied to Steam so even that doesn't make you safe if you're willing to sell outside your country).
That is interesting. Thanks for the information.
I have serious doubts that the extreme situation will ever apply in this case, but it is still good information.
I'm hopeful that the refund scenario will never be an issue either. I don't want to lose my games. All this would only apply in worse case scenarios.
But doesn't make it less interesting. Thanks.
Post edited May 05, 2020 by Kohleran
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2.0 is many steps backwards. Why fix something that wasn't broken?
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unknowngizzard: 2.0 is many steps backwards. Why fix something that wasn't broken?
they wanted to increase the profile of the social features. honestly social is kind of big these days. the younger generations use it more and more which is fine.

but they gutted a perfectly functional client for this stuff which i don't think is fine.
Anyone else having very high cpu usage when downloading?
It's basically eating a whole core when downloading.
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ELFswe: Anyone else having very high cpu usage when downloading?
It's basically eating a whole core when downloading.
... no..... No.... NOOOOOO.... ><
You triggered my suspicion gene. Now i have to watch the Task Manager super close every time Galaxy downloads something. ><

*sigh*

*edit* Hmmm... Nope, no additional CPU Usage for me.
Only the usual:
Galaxy: Yes Master, i downloaded everything!
Master/Me: And did the Update/Installation work? *Grim Expression*
Galaxy: No Master i couldn't install anything, because Windows didn't let me.
Post edited May 09, 2020 by Emico23
I got the email, updated and instantly regretted it, all sorting gone, all tags gone. Wow... with 1000+ games, that is a reason for a clean uninstall with "never looking back" flag checked.

A step back? Well I liked the new interface.. but the borking of the tags is a huge issue for me. How do you even sort by anything with this new application and have it stick?
I haven't noticed high CPU usage but to be fair I have CPU power to spare so I probably wouldn't either way.

However I've been having other problems ever since the Galaxy 2.0 beta started and even though the beta is over many of those still persist. So yeah, Galaxy 2.0 is rubbish.
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Anarchy_Blues: However I've been having other problems ever since the Galaxy 2.0 beta started and even though the beta is over many of those still persist. So yeah, Galaxy 2.0 is rubbish.
Galaxy 2 is still not out of beta which is why I don't use it. Just reinstall 1.2 and block it from updating. All those plugins that are used to connect to other services are designed by "the community", not by GOG. Essentially they're just mods made for Galaxy by fans.
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eRe4s3r: I got the email, updated and instantly regretted it, all sorting gone, all tags gone. Wow... with 1000+ games, that is a reason for a clean uninstall with "never looking back" flag checked.

A step back? Well I liked the new interface.. but the borking of the tags is a huge issue for me. How do you even sort by anything with this new application and have it stick?
After I read your post I tried it. No, sorting works fine.
Some settings have been reset however, maybe aso the tags you added?
At least I can tell for sure that the tags from the GOG homepage don't show in Galaxy.
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Post edited May 10, 2020 by chmegma
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Anarchy_Blues: However I've been having other problems ever since the Galaxy 2.0 beta started and even though the beta is over many of those still persist. So yeah, Galaxy 2.0 is rubbish.
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ZyloxDragon: Galaxy 2 is still not out of beta which is why I don't use it. Just reinstall 1.2 and block it from updating. All those plugins that are used to connect to other services are designed by "the community", not by GOG. Essentially they're just mods made for Galaxy by fans.
This.

The problem isn't "Galaxy 2.0 is launched in a hopeless state"

The problem is "Galaxy 2.0 is openly admitted to still be in beta but they're forcing it on users who have explicitly opted out of beta testing". They're deliberately refusing to honour user settings. I'm not sure which way around would actually be worse, but I'm leaning toward thinking the option they're actually going with is propably the one they should have been least willing to do.
Really dislike this version. Just my two cents to add to the others who dislike this version.
this but also my issue is that it keeps my power usage at "very high" nonstop