Posted December 02, 2013

JMich
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jeffreydean1
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Cormoran
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Posted December 02, 2013

jeffreydean1
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From Canada
Posted December 02, 2013
Seriously! heh. That clip accurately depicts just how helpful the UAC is. Can't imagine why anybody would willingly put up with that crap.

JMich
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Registered: Apr 2011
From Greece

ET3D
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted December 02, 2013
The discussion was about speed and the OS. When a component breaks down it prevents the PC from running, and no OS change will do anything (or be possible). If you have to take things out of context then I assume you agree with my actual point.

ET3D
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted December 03, 2013

As for security, power users who choose to use XP should have no problem with security as long as there are security programs which support XP. I haven't seen anything about such support ending, though I assume it will happen at some point. It just won't happen immediately when Microsoft ends support.
For lay people, I'd move them out of XP. Already moved my Sister to Vista and will move my father to it sometimes in the next few months (I had two spare copies of Vista Home Basic).

Egotomb
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Firebrand9
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From United States
Posted December 03, 2013
Sadly for my heating bill, only the amp gets hot. The rest just gets really loud.
Snickersnack: Operating systems periodically need updates to meet the needs of new hardware and software. Microsoft chose a business model where they sell software out right and hold a monopoly on updates. The market was saturated with XP and now they need to move on. We are compelled to follow, if slowly. This is all part of the bargain of choosing to use a proprietary operating system. The rich ecosystem of apps makes it worthwhile. These same apps keep us on the treadmill.
Also, it's shiny! :D Again, just wrong. The OS patched to the extent that it's going to reach to be stable doesn't need further upgrades unless you're reliant on the OS developer for components that I mentioned earlier that are readily available for free from third parties. Maybe you see it as a treadmill because you're attempting to justify your personal trend-seeking, but that's a prison purely of your own making. Once you have something that meets your needs sans compromise, you're not on a treadmill, you're on a free and clear road.
And, shiny? Who cares?
darthspudius: Great way to come across like a dick head. Well done.
You don't download stupid crap and neither do I. But considering the stupidity of 90% of people who own a computer it's better to be safer is it not? Watching people screw up new computers by clicking on stuff on the internet is bad enough on a modern supporting OS, never mind on an ancient piece of junk that should of been tossed out years ago. There comes a time when it becomes more hassle than it's worth and it's that time for XP. The irony is splendid. There's never a time to toss out what works for you. If you're incapable of maintaining that thing, then maybe putting it in the hands of someone who can would be a win-win proposal.
Avira and Avast (and Spybot and Malwarebytes for that matter) should both install on XP without any problems.

Also, it's shiny! :D
And, shiny? Who cares?

You don't download stupid crap and neither do I. But considering the stupidity of 90% of people who own a computer it's better to be safer is it not? Watching people screw up new computers by clicking on stuff on the internet is bad enough on a modern supporting OS, never mind on an ancient piece of junk that should of been tossed out years ago. There comes a time when it becomes more hassle than it's worth and it's that time for XP.
Avira and Avast (and Spybot and Malwarebytes for that matter) should both install on XP without any problems.
Post edited December 03, 2013 by Firebrand9

Firebrand9
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Posted December 03, 2013


Post edited December 03, 2013 by Firebrand9

JMich
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Registered: Apr 2011
From Greece
Posted December 03, 2013

ET3D
Always a noob
Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted December 03, 2013
It all depends on what "works for you" means. If buying something new upgrades your experience and you think that's worth the price, then by all means junk the old one and move on. It's a good thing too because that's what makes technology advance. If nobody wanted to buy better tech we'd be in a rut.
I know that for many people that "ancient piece of junk" as darthspudius called it may be all they feel they need, because they don't know better, but put them on a new system with an SSD and a decent amount of RAM and they'll realise that there's really no need to wait for the PC all the time.
How much faster?
I know that for many people that "ancient piece of junk" as darthspudius called it may be all they feel they need, because they don't know better, but put them on a new system with an SSD and a decent amount of RAM and they'll realise that there's really no need to wait for the PC all the time.
How much faster?
Post edited December 03, 2013 by ET3D

ET3D
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted December 03, 2013
Seems like updating to 7 isn't much better in this respect. Avira for example quotes April 2015 as end of life for XP and January 2016 as end of life for 7 (Vista support already ended). AVG, from what I've seen, says it will continue as long as there are a significant number of XP users, while Avast still has definition updates for Windows 9x (but no software updates for quite a while now).

Bad Hair Day
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Posted December 03, 2013



Petrell
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Finland
Posted December 03, 2013
You hate your father and sister that much? I would understand Win7 but I wouldn't give the abomination known as Vista to my worst enemies. Do make sure that UAC is at least completely and utterly turned off or they both end up in isolation in lunatic asylum. I almost did when I had to constantly go fix my sisters computer for over a year. Windows 8 ups the ante even more.
Post edited December 03, 2013 by Petrell