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Posted October 05, 2008
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ZuljinRaynor: X-Com does need some improvements, mainly on the technical end. Also it would be nice if some of the weapons were useful cause once you get Lasers and then Heavy Plasma it's goodbye to everything else. Unless of course you're gonna only use Blaster Bombs. :P
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Freyar: Isn't that the point of adapting to alien tech? :P

But regular plasma is useless!
Posted October 06, 2008
It makes for neat-o lava-lamp-esque things.. >>
Posted October 07, 2008
GAH! I was going to wait for Gog.com to get the X-Com series, but when I saw that Steam released TFTD in the working version for Vista, I just couldn't hold out any longer. Hopefully, I will be able to play by tomorrow (busy today with work and class... sadness).
Posted October 07, 2008
Yup, TFTD is now Vista compatible via DOSBOX. Released yesterday. Jason2K's awesome like that.
Posted October 08, 2008
Yes but did they fix that horrible flaw (I won't call it a bug because I have no data on whether the developers did it on purpose) in either the original XCom or TFTD where researching one particular alien item will cause you to be unable to win the game? As I recall my husband just about launched a keyboard through a monitor when he realized he had to start all over again after 40 hours or so.
Posted October 08, 2008
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Luned: Yes but did they fix that horrible flaw (I won't call it a bug because I have no data on whether the developers did it on purpose) in either the original XCom or TFTD where researching one particular alien item will cause you to be unable to win the game? As I recall my husband just about launched a keyboard through a monitor when he realized he had to start all over again after 40 hours or so.

So he got to play another 40 hours? The problem is...?
Posted October 08, 2008
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Luned: Yes but did they fix that horrible flaw (I won't call it a bug because I have no data on whether the developers did it on purpose) in either the original XCom or TFTD where researching one particular alien item will cause you to be unable to win the game? As I recall my husband just about launched a keyboard through a monitor when he realized he had to start all over again after 40 hours or so.

no, steam did not. you're referring to the game-breaking research bugs in TFTD, and i'm positive they were not on purpose, heh.
but you are in luck! BladeFireLight of strategycore has a fix. you can get it here:
http://www.strategycore.co.uk/files/index.php?dlid=232
you can use it with xcomutil, or by itself. if used alone, you have to run the tool manually -- if hooked into xcomutil, the tool will run after every combat. if your husband still has the save file, he should be able to correct the problem with this tool.
Posted October 08, 2008
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Luned: Yes but did they fix that horrible flaw (I won't call it a bug because I have no data on whether the developers did it on purpose) in either the original XCom or TFTD where researching one particular alien item will cause you to be unable to win the game? As I recall my husband just about launched a keyboard through a monitor when he realized he had to start all over again after 40 hours or so.
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illegalyouth: no, steam did not. you're referring to the game-breaking research bugs in TFTD, and i'm positive they were not on purpose, heh.
but you are in luck! BladeFireLight of strategycore has a fix. you can get it here:
http://www.strategycore.co.uk/files/index.php?dlid=232
you can use it with xcomutil, or by itself. if used alone, you have to run the tool manually -- if hooked into xcomutil, the tool will run after every combat. if your husband still has the save file, he should be able to correct the problem with this tool.

Well that was 3 computers ago. Actually after following up a couple of links, I think he fell victim to the Tasoth Commander Trap, which this fix doesn't seem to address. He did finish the game but was annoyed at having to do a complete restart. It was like working for years to make the Olympic team, arriving at the games, only to be told an hour before you're supposed to compete for the gold that your event has been canceled for this Olympiad, you'll just have to go through it all again for the next cycle in 4 years. :)
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Posted October 08, 2008
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illegalyouth: no, steam did not. you're referring to the game-breaking research bugs in TFTD, and i'm positive they were not on purpose, heh.
but you are in luck! BladeFireLight of strategycore has a fix. you can get it here:
http://www.strategycore.co.uk/files/index.php?dlid=232
you can use it with xcomutil, or by itself. if used alone, you have to run the tool manually -- if hooked into xcomutil, the tool will run after every combat. if your husband still has the save file, he should be able to correct the problem with this tool.
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Luned: Well that was 3 computers ago. Actually after following up a couple of links, I think he fell victim to the Tasoth Commander Trap, which this fix doesn't seem to address. He did finish the game but was annoyed at having to do a complete restart. It was like working for years to make the Olympic team, arriving at the games, only to be told an hour before you're supposed to compete for the gold that your event has been canceled for this Olympiad, you'll just have to go through it all again for the next cycle in 4 years. :)

Slightly dramatic, but I guess if your husband was that into the game, then it would feel that way.
Posted October 08, 2008
As far as patching goes, 2K (and by extension, ValvE with Steam) have not had the resources or manpower put forth to fix any bugs.
Quite frankly, they are only working with the end executable and installations.
While it's disappointing that there are show-stopping bugs.. Most veterans ought to know where they are now.
Posted October 09, 2008
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Freyar: As far as patching goes, 2K (and by extension, ValvE with Steam) have not had the resources or manpower put forth to fix any bugs.
Quite frankly, they are only working with the end executable and installations.
While it's disappointing that there are show-stopping bugs.. Most veterans ought to know where they are now.

i'm unsure that 2K could actually fix the bugs. although they own the license now, i think the source code was lost long ago.
while BladeFireLight's research tree bug fix isn't perfect, it fixes three of the four research bugs. just don't research any tasoth commanders, heh.
anyone still playing the original X-COM titles should really head over to strategycore first. there are a number of fixes, patches, and mods that make X-COM better. and whoever isn't using xcomutil for at the very least the auto-reequip is really missing out.
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