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Tormentfan: Yeah I know what you're saying, but I think you're also saying that you don't feel it's any better than the other two. I was just trying to point out that in the things that matter, it's very different. This actually is a tool, rather than being a form of control made up to look like a tool.

Do you see what I mean?
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Fred_DM: i do.

but i have plenty of indies DRM-free dowloaded directly and backed up on an external drive. i'd have no need for a client just to do that. seems unnecessary to me.

the point of Steam is that it's a replacement DRM. you have to deal with Steam alright, but you no longer have to deal with SecuROM, StarForce, Tages, SolidShield, ProtectDISC, etc. that's the big advantage, IMO.
See I'm the other way around.

I have installers too, but they are scattered around, I just find this far more convenient.

But one man's meat, and all that. ;)
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Fred_DM: the point of Steam is that it's a replacement DRM. you have to deal with Steam alright, but you no longer have to deal with SecuROM, StarForce, Tages, SolidShield, ProtectDISC, etc. that's the big advantage, IMO.
Not exactly. Depends on the game. Third Party DRM in Steam Games list
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Fred_DM: the point is that it's relatively easy for Desura to offer its games DRM-free when the vast majority of them are DRM-free indie games. that's not much of an accomplishment. in fact, i don't even know why you would go through a client for those games when you can direct-download them DRM-free elsewhere.

you act as if Desura was better than Steam or Origin while ignoring the fact that Desura offers only indies that are DRM-free anyway.

colour my impressed when you can download games like NFS: Hot Pursuit or Morrowind from Desura DRM-free without needing the client to run the games.
Again, I fail to see what this has to do with the double standards you accuse us of. For the games which are on both services, Desura is better than Steam (for me) because even games which are DRM-free in most places have DRM on Steam. Desura has the advantages of a client (updates, general convenience) with few of the disadvantages that Steam has (forced updates, requiring the client running).

How easy it is for them to get DRM-free games is irrelevant.

EDIT: I'm being irritable, you don't have to justify anything. I don't think there was any grounds for the accusation of double standards though.
Post edited March 29, 2012 by SirPrimalform
Must this really become a discussion about steam again? Really? Desura combines the benefits of both systems and allows the users to choose if they want to use any system or not. That works only for drm-free games, of course. Personally I don't need a client system, but I can understand why so many like it. It's great Desura tries to pleasure both groups now. Where's the problem and what have this to do with steam?
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DukeNukemForever: Must this really become a discussion about steam again? Really? Desura combines the benefits of both systems and allows the users to choose if they want to use any system or not. That works only for drm-free games, of course. Personally I don't need a client system, but I can understand why so many like it. It's great Desura tries to pleasure both groups now. Where's the problem and what have this to do with steam?
A good point well made. Rep+1
The first rule of GOG is: don't talk about Steam.

The second rule of GOG hasn't been made yet because we're still trying to get people to follow the first one.
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Fred_DM: so people cannot stop going on about how bad Steam is and how much they hate Origin because they don't want two clients, yet they jump on Desura just because it wraps itself in en vogue indie garments?

some double standards.
Are you always this aggressive? It seems so.
Currently trying to get my game to be distributed on it. Thus far, it's an absolute chore. Very complicated and confusing. Hopefully it will be worth it. Will add Swamplands as a in-development title as soon as we have the appropriate number of screenshots/videos to provide for review.