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keeveek: You wanted GOG to do the same? what's the difference, you would have to buy entire package to get better price anyway.
Yes, that's the main point. The original complaint appeared to be that people should be able to get the highest possible discount, without having to buy the whole bundle (in GOG).

What if someone in Steam wants the same cumulative bundle discount that Oddbox offers, without having to buy all the games inside Oddbox? Same thing, you still get the _full_benefit only by buying the whole bundle. Cherry picking means that the deal will not be as good anymore, in both cases.
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Fictionvision: People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.
Yes, that's true, but my point was they tried it before and it seems they found enough people didn't like it that they decided not to go with it again.
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Coelocanth: GOG did that last year and it seemed from the amount of complaints that people hated it.
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Fictionvision: People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.
Hmm, I guess it's tough to please everyone. Quite honestly I've enjoyed seeing the different kinds of sales that GOG has had this past year. PWYW (sort of) bundles, 60% off promos, Battle of the Games, etc.

What were the complaints about tiered discounts? I don't remember.

It does seem like whenever GOG does something people ask for, it rubs some the wrong way. I'm not saying their sales are perfect and should please everyone 100%, but generally I think they've listened well to customers' requests and done a pretty good job of mixing up the sales.
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Coelocanth: Just to be clear, I'm not really arguing that GOG should let us cherry pick the games we want from the bundles. My personal beef is they don't offer the same great discounts on individual games that you can get elsewhere. My only point with the bundles is the fact that when I remove games I don't want, the price jumps up (basically doubling) for the game(s) I do want but that doesn't make me say "Hey, it's still a good deal" - which is probably is - but it just makes me go "Meh, I'll pass'.
Sure, and I felt exactly the same when I checked in Steam if I'd drop the base game from the "Saints Row 3 The Full Package" (because I had it already in Steam), or trying to drop Darksiders and maybe a couple of Darksiders 2 DLCs from the "Darksiders Franchise" bundle.

Especially the latter was actually a bit funny as even the mere Darksiders 2 base game bought separately costs more than the whole franchise bundle. Somehow it doesn't seem like a good deal unless you go with the whole bundle...

It is as if Steam is telling me:

"You already have parts of the franchise separately in our service? Haha, loser! Sucks to be you!"

while GOG promo is saying:

"You bought some parts of the bundle from us already before? Nice, as thanks for that we will give you the full bundle benefit if you decide to buy the missing two games you don't have yet."

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Coelocanth: I'm personally not demanding anything. GOG can do what they want with their pricing. I'm not such GOG fanboi that I'll cough up my hard-earned cash just because it's GOG that's offering a game. I'll buy where I feel the best deal is. All I'm pointing out is, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, they don't seem to be competing with discounts on individual titles and rather seem to be focused more on bundling.
GOG seems to want to give a special reward (=extra discounts) to those who primarily buy from their service, which just makes sense. Obviously if you don't do that, you won't see the same benefits.

But we may be discussing on two different levels here. Your point apparently is that the prices of individual items in GOG is not competitive to the prices on many other stores (e.g. for indie games; then again, can any non-"pay what you want" site beat the Humble Bundle prices for indie games?).

I have been mainly commenting on the idea that GOG should offer the very same full discounts to those who don't want to buy whole bundles for a reason or another, which is what the OP was asking.

The discussion whether GOG prices on the whole are competitive to other sites (regardless of whether we are talking about bundles or individual games) is a separate issue from that.

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mondo84: I always like a tiered structure.

Buy one game, 50% off.
Buy two games, 60% off.
Buy three or more games, 70% off.
Me too, but there seemed to be a lot of vocal opposition to those deals, apparently for the same reason as this current model.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by timppu
There were a lot of nice sales leading up to Christmas, so I think a lot of people had high expectations for more significant discounts. I thought the daily bundles were a nice idea, but there should have been some extra discount for the games in the bundle if you didn't get them all to set them apart from the standard 50% off discount.

I would have liked to see a rehash of the Battle of the Games (I think that's what the promo was called, correct me if I'm wrong) but with more games included in the voting with different discounts based on the result (highest voted 75% off, second highest 60% off...).
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mondo84: I always like a tiered structure.

Buy one game, 50% off.
Buy two games, 60% off.
Buy three or more games, 70% off.

Good compromise, especially for people who want 2-3 games but not 5-6. I think this would actually help their sales.
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Coelocanth: GOG did that last year and it seemed from the amount of complaints that people hated it.
I actually don't see anything wrong with this model as it encourages customers to buy more games, and ones they actually want. Don't understand why people would whinge .And yes i remember people being vocal against the tiered model as well.
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Neobr10: I agree with the OP. I think it would be better if more 75% discounts were offered for single games instead of having to buy all the games in the bundle to get it.

I also agree that the discounts for classic games are already fair enough. I mean, most cost U$ 5,99, a 75% off would be too much, 50% discounts are already good enough. But the discounts for recent/indie games can certainly improve a lot.

Look at Legend of Grimrock for example, it's 75% off on Steam right now, and you don't have to buy anything else to get this discount, but if you wanted the same price on GOG you would have to buy a bundle with games that you probably don't want (please correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there has ever been a 75% discount on Grimrock).

And please don't get me wrong, i'm not demanding anything from GOG, they are free to price the games the way they want. I'm just expressing my opinion on it.
I hope gog never goes the price matching route. Look at the threads in cheapassgamer. heaps of people keep whining.. sorry i mean asking amazon rep to price match x competitor this or that.
Post edited December 27, 2012 by nijuu
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Coelocanth: GOG did that last year and it seemed from the amount of complaints that people hated it.
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Fictionvision: People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.
People complained about the tiers being 25% to 60% off in increments of 5% . If the tiers ranged from 50% to 70% in increments of 10% as Mondo84 suggested, no one would have complained.
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Fictionvision: People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.
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doady: People complained about the tiers being 25% to 60% off in increments of 5% . If the tiers ranged from 50% to 70% in increments of 10% as Mondo84 suggested, no one would have complained.
Ah ok, I thought it was like 50% - 75% going up 5% each time. Still I'd like to see an option like that if possible.
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Fictionvision: People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.
GOG is in the tough position of actually giving a damn about its users; listening and reacting to demands. As I remember the backlash from tiered discounts was much bigger than the regular murmurs of disgruntled internet users.

I think the sales have been right in the sweet spot. It's tempting to take a chance on a game, but isn't condemning the purchased game to my backlog to never be played.
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Neobr10: Look at Legend of Grimrock for example, it's 75% off on Steam right now, and you don't have to buy anything else to get this discount, but if you wanted the same price on GOG you would have to buy a bundle with games that you probably don't want (please correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there has ever been a 75% discount on Grimrock).
Grimrock has been 75% off TWICE in the last week. And that's an individual 75% off not a bundle 75%.
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doady: People complained about the tiers being 25% to 60% off in increments of 5% . If the tiers ranged from 50% to 70% in increments of 10% as Mondo84 suggested, no one would have complained.
As the title of this thread suggests, people would still complain as long as they don't get 75% (or the full possible discount) off if they pick only one game from the bundle. :)
Personally, the Scandanavian "Pick what you want" bundle with Alan Wake, Trine and Riddick is a good way to do it.

Either that or a Teired one that doesn't suck.

I wanted to jump on the D&D bundle bad, but it was nearly twice as much as Gamersgate for the same thing basically (+ a few games. Is adding Demon Stone, NWN and a few other games really worth 10$ more , if you can get BG1&2,IWD1&2 and Planescape for only 10$? both DRM Free) I guess it depends on the person. But I really just wanted to be able to get a couple of them individually for a good price and not the whole pack.
Post edited December 28, 2012 by BONKERS_ver2
I think a Pick 5 at 75% off would be a great deal and with a few days without a deal that we have already seen this may be what they have in mind.
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timppu: What if someone in Steam wants the same cumulative bundle discount that Oddbox offers, without having to buy all the games inside Oddbox? Same thing, you still get the _full_benefit only by buying the whole bundle. Cherry picking means that the deal will not be as good anymore, in both cases.
I thought I went over this.

They would get 75% off the game they wanted.

GOG doesn't do bundle discounts in the sense of, buy all three thief games for $26. They say buy all three thief games for $30. But hey we are having a sale and you get 75% off of them all if you buy them all. Individually only 50% off though.

Other stores have the bundle discount price of $26 and then say all the games are 75% off, so buy the individual games for 75% off or buy the already discounted bundle for 75% off the already lowered price.

So if you want a game on Steam you're still getting 75% off.
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Immoli: I thought I went over this.

They would get 75% off the game they wanted.
No, they do that sometimes. GOG has also offered individual games too 75% off in this promo too.

This same stupid bitching has taken place before many times: "Why doesn't GOG offer the same benefits to those who want to cherry-pick individual games, as to those who buy the whole bundle?". The idea is the very same as e.g. with Steam bundles: those who buy more (or all) get bigger rewards. I don't know what is so hard to understand in that.

IF, however, your complaint is that the discount percentages overall (individual games, or bundles) in GOG are not competitive to other digital stores, there's an easy fix for that:

Instead of bitching, go buy it in that other store instead. Vote with your wallet.

There, problem solved. For example, when I noticed that getgamesgo.com (or Greenmangaming) is selling Spec Ops: The Line for cheaper (75% off), while Steam seems to sell it tops 66% off (not 75% as you claimed), I simply went to getgamesgo.com and bought it from there instead, just to save a few bucks. I didn't go childishly bitching to Steam forums how wrong it is that Steam is not price-matching all other digital stores.

I mean, you could never get as good deal from Steam as from e.g. the Humble THQ Bundle, a bunch of AAA titles for a mere dollar. Or the SFI Super Bundle, 29 Strategy First games for mere $9.99. Whenever some other store offers a better deal than the Steam store, should the Steam forums be filled with moaning about it?
Post edited December 29, 2012 by timppu