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monkeydelarge: I also find it annoying that people won't take my word it.
1) Why should they? Just like why should they take my word for anything I say, or QC's word for anything they say?

2) You are making a statement that people are cheap. Generally speaking, I tend to agree, but that's because people dislike paying any more than they have to (always have, always will). But you are still stating it basically as fact, but won't give even one example. All the effort you have expended complaining about the 'trolls' could so easily have been channelled into a bit of copy-pasta goodness.

But instead? "I don't feel like writing a post about every single item, I've sold and is currently up for sale".
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Piranjade: I have to admit that I made similar experiences on flea markets for children's toys and clothes. I buy stuff and I used to sell stuff also but I stopped doing that.
For about a year now the behaviour of the buyers slightly changed. People don't seem to be willing to pay a reasonable price, only want to pay about € 0,50 - € 1 per item and then want something free on top. Or they just ask for free stuff right away.
It's strange and I really wonder what has changed. I like flea markets and I love haggling and I know how things work there and I have been a happy customer and a successful vendor but the mood has changed and not in a good way. I can of course only speak for the flea markets I frequent, so I don't have a very big sample to go by but for these things really have gotten different.
If you are talking about items that are new then these tough times have turned a lot of people into insanely cheap entitled selfish people who fail to see the big picture. If we are talking about used items, tburger said it best.

"Consumer goods become cheaper and less durable in time. From many years people are taught that it’s not worth to buy second-hand items (or repair broken ones) – that what they should do – is just buy new item. That’s why value of second-hand items devaluates."
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monkeydelarge: ...snip
Ok, there's two sides to your question.

The answers about a price never being unfair, cheapness and greed being in the eye of the beholder, that's the market today - so deal with it, etc... are at one level.

I think what you are actually asking is why. Which is the other level and I didn't see any answer going deeper than the surface - goods are produced at very low cost today.

So here's my 5 cents on that and this is going to be hugely simplified. No geopolitics, no demographics, no ethics.

Since around the 1950s two things happened: massive increase in money supply, massive decrease in production costs. The first one is inflationary, the second is deflationary. These accelerated around the 70s and then again in the 90s.

The first you see mainly in things like energy and food - those prices have gone up. The cost for extracting oil, or growing corn has not really decreased a lot (at least compared to other activities) but where you used to pay 1$, now you pay 10$ because the money unit has been devalued (money supply went up). The thing with this process is that the creation of money is not distributed equally, hence the relative impact of this is disproportionate. (hence bubbles in sectors associated with finance and the state: education, civil service, medicine)

The second you see very clearly in things like video games, and pretty much everything associated with digital media, informatics, automatic industries. Recently you can even say that prices became lower, but until recently they were kind of stable, which in view of the 1st effect means that in terms of purchasing power they did decrease throughout.

So you have inelastic demand goods raising in price because money is devalued, and you have everything else which is becoming devalued in terms of purchasing power. A videogame used to cost one month food supply, now it costs less than a day.

To wrap it all up, society has adjusted to the second effect (digital media is the dominant cultural driver nowadays) and in effect expects it to be the dominant one (entitlement to low prices and rising consumer expectations on service level, personalization, etc... across the economy) but it certainly feels the first at some subliminal level (it happens slower), which causes anxiety, which reinforces the entitlement and expectation and demand for non fundamental goods.

Does that help? You can already shoot many holes in the above simplifications, so let me stop here.
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monkeydelarge: I don't feel like writing a post about every single item, I've sold and is currently up for sale. I also find it annoying that people won't take my word it. Why do I need to tell people the whole story? Do I have a reputation of being someone who is full of shit? I don't like being treated like a criminal.
I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion.
Here's my theory, people now make jack shit for wages. Worse still, Jack left town recently.
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monkeydelarge: I don't feel like writing a post about every single item, I've sold and is currently up for sale. I also find it annoying that people won't take my word it. Why do I need to tell people the whole story? Do I have a reputation of being someone who is full of shit? I don't like being treated like a criminal.
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MobiusArcher: I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion.
Okay, fine. I don't trust people who don't lash out. I find people who don't lash out, uncivilized. They are bottling things up, hiding things...like a serpent lurking in a shadow.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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Spinorial: You told one of the nicest people around here to "go fuck" himself, and you did so because he told you things as they are, for both the value of your goods and your attitude to the responders. You are abrasive and easily turn rude; he was being frank and straightforward. Now, instead of continuing to argue with people, go back and read over what they've told you again. Most of your answers are there.
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monkeydelarge: Just because he is nice to you, doesn't mean he is a nice person. And just because someone is a nice person, doesn't mean he or she is not capable of not nice things. No, I'm not a moron and I'm not uncivilized so he did not tell me things as they are. If that is what you think, then go fuck yourself too. The fucker insulted me, I insulted him back. It's very simple. Of course, childish favoritism comes into play, so people side with him.
Again, you keep arguing and insulting, when I advised you to go back and READ the posts again. Because he never insulted you, or called you a moron or uncivilised. Whatever slight you've perceived is just not there, yet you've been outright vile to him without a second thought. You owe him, and a good many other people in here, an apology.
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MobiusArcher: I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion.
What I find disturbing is the trend on internet message boards of enforced civility. I would rather a board of posters actually freely expressing their emotions, even if it means them lashing out at each other, than a board of passive aggressive little bitches who hate each other but try to hide it through "politeness" to avoid getting banned.

Hiding emotions is for women, true men never do this.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by Crosmando
Hey, you win. You trolled the hell out of me, and I almost never fall for trolling. I'm ashamed of myself. Seriously. I'm not being sarcastic about that.
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monkeydelarge: Just because he is nice to you, doesn't mean he is a nice person. And just because someone is a nice person, doesn't mean he or she is not capable of not nice things. No, I'm not a moron and I'm not uncivilized so he did not tell me things as they are. If that is what you think, then go fuck yourself too. The fucker insulted me, I insulted him back. It's very simple. Of course, childish favoritism comes into play, so people side with him.
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Spinorial: Again, you keep arguing and insulting, when I advised you to go back and READ the posts again. Because he never insulted you, or called you a moron or uncivilised. Whatever slight you've perceived is just not there, yet you've been outright vile to him without a second thought. You owe him, and a good many other people in here, an apology.
Ok, explain to me how "OP - it sounds like you need a crash course in economics and civility after reading your posts." is not an insult to my intelligence and culture, then I will agree with you. I doubt it is possible because ONLY a moron, at the age of 28, would need a crash course in economics. And only someone uncivilized would need to be taught how to be civil.
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MobiusArcher: I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion.
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Crosmando: What I find disturbing is the trend on internet message boards of enforced civility. I would rather a board of posters actually freely expressing their emotions, even if it means them lashing out at each other, than a board of passive aggressive little bitches who hate each other but try to hide it through "politeness" to avoid getting banned.
That's not what happened there. I was quoting his original post. It was outright rude of me to do it, so no hiding.

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Also, even if I wasn't quoting his original post, Calling him uncivilized is lashing out. Sure, I didn't drop an F bomb or anything, but its a rather nasty insult.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by MobiusArcher
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MobiusArcher: I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion.
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Crosmando: What I find disturbing is the trend on internet message boards of enforced civility. I would rather a board of posters actually freely expressing their emotions, even if it means them lashing out at each other, than a board of passive aggressive little bitches who hate each other but try to hide it through "politeness" to avoid getting banned.

Hiding emotions is for women, true men never do this.
I love you. Finally, someone who sees things my way. When did every setting have to be a girl's tea party? It is unfortunate that today in the West especially in the USA, being yourself, speaking what is on your mind makes you an "abrasive" savage while being a 2 faced little bitch, makes you a nice and good person.

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Crosmando: What I find disturbing is the trend on internet message boards of enforced civility. I would rather a board of posters actually freely expressing their emotions, even if it means them lashing out at each other, than a board of passive aggressive little bitches who hate each other but try to hide it through "politeness" to avoid getting banned.
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MobiusArcher: That's not what happened there. I was quoting his original post. It was outright rude of me to do it, so no hiding.
I don't see how "I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion."
is quoting my original post?
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: Ok, explain to me how "OP - it sounds like you need a crash course in economics and civility after reading your posts." is not an insult to my intelligence and culture, then I will agree with you. I doubt it is possible because ONLY a moron, at the age of 28, would need a crash course in economics. And only someone uncivilized would need to be taught how to be civil.
Items are worth only what buyers are willing to pay for them. That's your first rule of market economics, and you don't seem to grasp or accept it. Ergo, you need that crash course, not necessarily because you don't know this, but because you don't seem to accept it.
As to civility, there are probably some very civil uncivilised people. Alas, there are a great many uncivil civilised ones. The two words have very different meanings, and while your civilised status is proven merely by your ability to use a computer, you civility is put in doubt by your conduct through it.

And now I need to stop being civil and ditch this thread because it's getting downright uncivilisedly late around here :P
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monkeydelarge: I love you. Finally, someone who sees things my way. When did every setting have to be a girl's tea party?
Well, I've been on quite a few forums over the years, and literally every one of them has the same regime, extremely tight-ass moderators who will lock a thread if it gets "too heated" (ie people actually debating a topic) or outright ban someone for expressing themselves. Seems like everybody (well, mostly everybody) on the net is an overly sensitive little girl.

I sentence everyone on the internet to solitary confinement on 4chan's most offensive boards, once you reach lvl 10 in thick skin, enough to withstand the attacks of even the strongest troll, you may venture forth into the rest of the internets.
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monkeydelarge: I don't see how "I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion."
is quoting my original post?
The "It is uncivilized, in my opinion." was the quote. I was of course doing the same thing by saying it. It was was very hypocritical of me. I really suck at troll fights.