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Posted April 20, 2014
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Foxhack: I made a thread at HardForum asking about Shadowplay and they told me that if I grab the i7-3770 then there'll be no need for it, since the CPU's got something called Intel Quick Sync that some apps can use to do rapid video compression. I'll probably stick to an AMD card.

Also, I don't overclock nor have any plans to do so. I'm gonna spend more time working on cooling solutions since ambient temperatures in my hometown can get around 110 F (or 45 Celcius) in the summer. o_o;;
With that temps the 750 TI should be your card.
Its heat-output will be nearly not noticeable, so you should go for that. But please, you should still don´t buy a card in reference design!
There are many good Custom-Designed Cooling Solutions from Nvidias Boardpartners out there...
You can find a little shootout here:
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-custom-card-shootout
Post edited April 20, 2014 by RadonGOG
Posted April 20, 2014
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F1ach: I have a radeon, I would suggest get NVidia, a lot of games just plain hate radeon
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OldFatGuy: Yes, this. This was my experience in a system for my son, and I haven't bought radeon since. And probably never will either. Usually when a company earns it's way onto my do not buy list, it stays there. Not always, but usually.

And through at least about a dozen different Nvidia cards over the years, never had the problems we had with that one Radeon card.
I´d say your information base is a bit outdated. Radeon drivers has evolved very nice and they won´t cast more problems as Geforces, as long as you don´t look at HighEnd Mobile-GPUs like the 7970m/R9 290m.
That was, in my case, even the main reason for picking a Geforce instead of a Radeon, as I´m a Notebook-User by hearth!
But, this doesn´t matter at this point, does it?
;)

In general, the decision of Geforce vs. AMD is nowadays more an ideologist one than a rational one:
Do you believe in higher pricing for those Nvidia-exclusive features? Then you should pick up Geforce. Or do you believe in open features and nice priceing? Then you should pick up Radeon.

You don´t believe in exclusive features in general, but just WANT to have some of those exclusive Geforce-Feature?
Well, I think that one is easy and hard at the same time... :(
Posted April 20, 2014
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RadonGOG: With that temps the 750 TI should be your card.
Its heat-output will be nearly not noticeable, so you should go for that. But please, you should still don´t buy a card in reference design!
There are many good Custom-Designed Cooling Solutions from Nvidias Boardpartners out there...
You can find a little shootout here:
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-custom-card-shootout
I'm looking at XFX cards right now, and I always have lots of fans on my PC, so don't worry. And I have air conditioning and rarely play intensive games without it on.

As for the choice of card...

I used to hate ATI. Like, hate. HAAAAAAAAAAATE. I had their cards for a while but the drivers were absolutely atrocious and kept bluescreening my old computer, causing lots of issues. I switched to Nvidia until four years ago when my video card died. I went back to ATI and noticed that the drivers were a heck of a lot more stable, so I've stuck by them since. I still have some issues but the games work fine and they don't cause any more system crashes, so it's not a problem anymore for me. My choice of company was from personal experience, but I gave them a shot again and am happy I did so.
Post edited April 20, 2014 by Foxhack
Posted April 20, 2014
Here is a raw power and overall benchmarks comparison which should help you in making a decision. But, I would also advise you to just take a look at benchmarks for the games you are most likely to play, because there are some games that are really optimized for Nvidia and run like crap on AMD like Ubisoft games e.g. Assassins Creed IV, the upcoming Watch Dogs etc. While games like Tomb Raider and Hitman Absolution run much better on rigs with AMD GPUs.

gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270-vs-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti

Actually I just looked at benchmark comparisons for some games on Tom's hardware and R9 270 is came on top on all the games benchmarked compared to GTX 750 Ti which you can check at the link below:

www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-8.html

Please copy/paste the links in the browser, sorry for the inconvenience but I am unable to post direct links.
Post edited April 20, 2014 by stg83
Posted April 20, 2014
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OldFatGuy: Yes, this. This was my experience in a system for my son, and I haven't bought radeon since. And probably never will either. Usually when a company earns it's way onto my do not buy list, it stays there. Not always, but usually.

And through at least about a dozen different Nvidia cards over the years, never had the problems we had with that one Radeon card.
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RadonGOG: I´d say your information base is a bit outdated. Radeon drivers has evolved very nice and they won´t cast more problems as Geforces, as long as you don´t look at HighEnd Mobile-GPUs like the 7970m/R9 290m.
That was, in my case, even the main reason for picking a Geforce instead of a Radeon, as I´m a Notebook-User by hearth!
But, this doesn´t matter at this point, does it?
;)

In general, the decision of Geforce vs. AMD is nowadays more an ideologist one than a rational one:
Do you believe in higher pricing for those Nvidia-exclusive features? Then you should pick up Geforce. Or do you believe in open features and nice priceing? Then you should pick up Radeon.

You don´t believe in exclusive features in general, but just WANT to have some of those exclusive Geforce-Feature?
Well, I think that one is easy and hard at the same time... :(
Has nVidia dealt with the legacy problem? I've had a fair few games that wouldn't run stably on nVidia, but would on AMD, and I'm curious if that's still the case.

That's pretty much the only basis I have for preferring AMD over nVidia, well that and the fact that AMD's opensource drivers are rapidly evolving.
Posted April 20, 2014
Newegg:

R7 265 $150-170
R9 270 $180-220
R9 270x 2GB $190-240
R9 270x 4GB $248-300

The difference is the same as the difference between the 7850 and 7870, since these cards are just updates of those. If you regularly play ROP-bound games like Witcher 2, or you are very sensitive to cost, this favors the R7 265, since all these cards are 32 ROP designs. Most other games favor the 270 or 270x, by enough to make the price difference worthwhile.

nVidia doesn't have 32-ROP cards below the GTX 760, and the 660, 660Ti, or 750 can't keep up with the comparable AMD cards.
Posted April 21, 2014
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RadonGOG: I´d say your information base is a bit outdated. Radeon drivers has evolved very nice and they won´t cast more problems as Geforces, as long as you don´t look at HighEnd Mobile-GPUs like the 7970m/R9 290m.
That was, in my case, even the main reason for picking a Geforce instead of a Radeon, as I´m a Notebook-User by hearth!
But, this doesn´t matter at this point, does it?
;)

In general, the decision of Geforce vs. AMD is nowadays more an ideologist one than a rational one:
Do you believe in higher pricing for those Nvidia-exclusive features? Then you should pick up Geforce. Or do you believe in open features and nice priceing? Then you should pick up Radeon.

You don´t believe in exclusive features in general, but just WANT to have some of those exclusive Geforce-Feature?
Well, I think that one is easy and hard at the same time... :(
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hedwards: Has nVidia dealt with the legacy problem? I've had a fair few games that wouldn't run stably on nVidia, but would on AMD, and I'm curious if that's still the case.

That's pretty much the only basis I have for preferring AMD over nVidia, well that and the fact that AMD's opensource drivers are rapidly evolving.
Well, there are two Nvidia-Legacy-Problems:
The first one is the problem with legacy drivers. Cards below the 8000-Series won´t be able to run most modern games, although they could proberbly be runable, just because of Nvidias Support has been shut-down! This will soon also be the case for every card below the GT(X) 400-Fermi-Series; but AMD is doing likely the same.

The only other problem of Nvidia is it´s general hate for DX 8.1-games. They are all performing like shit in comparision to äquivalent ATI/AMD-based graphics cards and it doesn´t look like this will ever change. But, and that´s the positive part, it´s only DX 8.1 and there aren´t many DX 8.1-games out there...
Posted April 21, 2014
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hedwards: Has nVidia dealt with the legacy problem? I've had a fair few games that wouldn't run stably on nVidia, but would on AMD, and I'm curious if that's still the case.

That's pretty much the only basis I have for preferring AMD over nVidia, well that and the fact that AMD's opensource drivers are rapidly evolving.
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RadonGOG: Well, there are two Nvidia-Legacy-Problems:
The first one is the problem with legacy drivers. Cards below the 8000-Series won´t be able to run most modern games, although they could proberbly be runable, just because of Nvidias Support has been shut-down! This will soon also be the case for every card below the GT(X) 400-Fermi-Series; but AMD is doing likely the same.

The only other problem of Nvidia is it´s general hate for DX 8.1-games. They are all performing like shit in comparision to äquivalent ATI/AMD-based graphics cards and it doesn´t look like this will ever change. But, and that´s the positive part, it´s only DX 8.1 and there aren´t many DX 8.1-games out there...
Thanks, sounds like they haven't bothered to address any of the legacy problems then. It's a shame that the cards seem to run like complete shit when it comes to things like Blood 2. I think shy of disabling the acceleration, there's no way of getting that game to run on nVidia cards. Or at least I was never able to figure it out.
Posted April 21, 2014
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RadonGOG: Well, there are two Nvidia-Legacy-Problems:
The first one is the problem with legacy drivers. Cards below the 8000-Series won´t be able to run most modern games, although they could proberbly be runable, just because of Nvidias Support has been shut-down! This will soon also be the case for every card below the GT(X) 400-Fermi-Series; but AMD is doing likely the same.

The only other problem of Nvidia is it´s general hate for DX 8.1-games. They are all performing like shit in comparision to äquivalent ATI/AMD-based graphics cards and it doesn´t look like this will ever change. But, and that´s the positive part, it´s only DX 8.1 and there aren´t many DX 8.1-games out there...
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hedwards: Thanks, sounds like they haven't bothered to address any of the legacy problems then. It's a shame that the cards seem to run like complete shit when it comes to things like Blood 2. I think shy of disabling the acceleration, there's no way of getting that game to run on nVidia cards. Or at least I was never able to figure it out.
Sorry, never played that game, so I can´t tell you a thing how it performs today on Geforces :(
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