Interesting, interesting... Well, the dispute wasn't getting controversial in any way as far as I'm concerned, at least before you dragged the argument by the head into some rather bizarre territory.

Hmm... You're not keeping a chopped corpse of a postman in your bathtub are you?

On a side note, isn't Nietzsche the main guy who is most often and wrongly associated with Nazi ideal of so called 'Social Darwinism', and political ideas of German fascism in general thanks to his sister who was blowing Hitler?

Hitler was already mentioned in this thread before you replied to me, likening yourself to a character from Wolfenstein games. I read up on him and it all seemed a bit too "interrelated" to me and since I have already revealed on another thread (about philosophers in history) that I have a long-standing interests in both Heidegger and Nietzsche's thought.

No dead bodies in my abode. I'm the most peaceful individual you could ever hope to come across. I can't believe you posted that after I had just said that being a Heidegger reader does not necessitate being a Nazi sympathiser. You've just proved my point that Heidegger cannot be mentioned without the whole NSP subject being dredged up.

No, Nietszche's thought had much less influence on Nazi "philosophy" than other thinkers / artists such as Wagner. Nietzsche and Wagner were of course friends who became estranged when N. exposed his art as empty posturing. Hitler was much more heavily influenced by Wagner's music than he was by Nietzsche's thought. Nietzsche was a self-confessed anti-antiSemite. This is all very well known and documented. The level of ignorance about all these relationships is absolutely staggering.

Any further questions ?

It was Nietzsche's sister and her husband who were the antiSemites. She treated Nietzsche appalling when he fell victim to madness. Nietzsche described his mother and sister together the "perfect machinery of hell" and yet in spite of this view loved them to the day he died, while the same cannot be said for his sister's attitude towards him.

I thought long about it, but couldn't really come up with anybody I would really cpmpletely identify me. There's just no hero that I could think of as a personification of me.

But then it hit me, and I realized, that I'm most likely one of the random mooks that get slaughtered without any thought given to them afterwards.

I had no idea that Hitler was mentioned before. I don't get it, you think that I likened myself to Blazkowicz to suggest you're an anti-Semite?! That's ridiculous. No, and I never saw your comments on this forum before, either about Heidegger or otherwise.

Regarding Nietzsche, I didn't say he was the one who influenced Nazi ideology the most, but the one who is very often associated with it thanks to his sister. I'm well aware about relationships you mentioned, and I though I made that clear in my comment.

Although its not really a game, Michael Douglas character-D-Fense from Falling down the movie was a lot like me in that scene with the old man:

Dfense shoots the golf cart which crashes into the water.

"Where was your medicine?"

Old man points to the golf cart.

"Well thats too bad. You really messed up now didn't ya. Aren't you ashamed that you didn't let me through your golf course and weren't good to me. Now your gonna die here wearing that stupid little hat."

I laugh at that part of the movie so much even though its a low blow. Its just so funny.

Doesn't he say something like "How does that feel" after that? I never really dug that movie but that is a GREAT GREAT scene.

He says-"Hows it feel?" One of my friends said as we watched that part-Dave even though you won't go postal, that's basically you if you did, lol"

Well okay then, but if I've had this conversation once I've had it a thousand times and it makes me weary. Mention Heiegger and the Nazis and Hitler always get mentioned, so as someone who innocently read Heidegger as a teenager and was deeply affected by his thought I am very aware of this automatic association and always ready to defend my position, though it irritates me no end that I am forced to do so.

It might have helped if you hadn't accused me of chopping up my postman, though I'm sure you were only joking. There is a character called Heidegger in FFVII who I imagine is intended as some kind of weird and utterly stupid caricature of the philosopher Heidegger. This is a trivial example of how habitually this towering philosopher's name gets dragged through the mud by people who simply don't understand anything about him.

Dude, I made a sarcastic remark just for lulz, I didn't actually start an awkward weird debate on that topic or suggest that someone actually identifies himself with Hitler or something. In Poland and Germany you can actually say "Hitler" without causing some weird outrage. Next time I'll whisper it in tinyE's ear so nobody will be able to abuse it for a crazy debate. <.<