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Posted December 19, 2014
Nordic In-n-Out: complete your Nordic Games catalog with titles like The Guild series, the Spellforce saga, and Black Mirror 1&2 up to 90% off!

How you like THEM apples?!! We teamed up with our friends at Nordic to bring back their games to GOG.com for one more brief but glorious stint. Their entire catalog will be available for purchase for the next 4 days and it's an offer you can't refuse. You can get all the great titles at individual discounts ranging from 75% to 85%, or you can complete your Nordic catalog with all the missing games at 90% off! Let's take a look at some of the highlights on offer.

The Spellforce series delivers an RTS/RPG mixture depicting a fantasy saga of epic proportions. With a vast realm to explore and conquer, a huge collection of story-driven scenarios, and many memorable character, this series is something that every strategy and RPG fan should try at least once, especially when it's 85% off.

Painkiller: Black Edition is everything you love about old-school first person perspective shooters delivered in a good-looking, demonic package. The protagonist of the game takes on the denizens of hell and delivers a royal whooping to the fallen angel host and their monstrous pets. With incredible weapon design, satisfying fast-paced gameplay, and hordes of foes to shred to pieces, this game will satisfy your need for ultimate badassdom.

And let's not forget about the one-two combo of the acclaimed Gothic series with Gothic 2 Gold Edition and Gothic 3 available 85% off. Prepare yourself for a long and enjoyable visit to the realm of Myrtana full of peril and mystery.

There are many more gems among the 35 titles included in the promo so make sure you head on to the promo page and pick your own Nordic notables. Make haste, the games will only be available for purchase for the next 96 hours! The offer lasts until Tuesday, December 23, at 10:59AM GMT.
Posted December 20, 2014
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lazydog: Personally, I think this in/out it is a mixture of two key strategies.

One: Nordic probably saw a huge increase in sales on GOG when it was first announced that they would be leaving, for whatever reason that actually was. Mass buying by people on GOG when threatened by the future loss of games in the GOG catalogue.

Two: no doubt Nordic will be well aware now that GOGs user base will have gone up dramatically after that last sale with the free witcher2 and movie.

What better way to get another huge boost to sales than to come back again to the increased GOG membership and again claim that it is a last chance saloon on their games.

If I am right about this, I would expect this kind of marketing crap to continue and possibly involve similar moves by other publishers.

I am by no way trying to tell people not to take advantage of the deals though.

Just saying I am too long in the tooth to buy this-we are leaving as GOG is no longer tenable, but actually we might pop back in once and a while.

If you think about it, it is quite a despicable act by Nordic.
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yyahoo: You can abandon your conspiracy theories. GOG asked Nordic to do this promo, not the other way around...

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/weekend_promo_nordic_innout_98503/post34
I am well aware of that blues response. And I am sincerely not trying to promote conspiracy theories. But I would suggest to you that GOG probably asked that question with a damn good few statistics on sales and membership.
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Posted December 20, 2014
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yyahoo: You can abandon your conspiracy theories. GOG asked Nordic to do this promo, not the other way around...

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/weekend_promo_nordic_innout_98503/post34
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lazydog: I am well aware of that blues response. And I am sincerely not trying to promote conspiracy theories. But I would suggest to you that GOG did in fact probably ask that question with a damn good few statistics on sales and membership.
So you're blaming Nordic for agreeing to GOG's request to temporarily bring their games back in a huge sale, because Nordic is greedy and wants to take advantage of GOG and its users? But GOG is pure as snow in this because they're, I don't know, naive? I honestly don't understand...

Edit: and what is this "GOG is no longer tenable" thing you're referencing in regards to Nordic?
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Posted December 20, 2014
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lazydog: I am well aware of that blues response. And I am sincerely not trying to promote conspiracy theories. But I would suggest to you that GOG did in fact probably ask that question with a damn good few statistics on sales and membership.
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yyahoo: So you're blaming Nordic for agreeing to GOG's request to temporarily bring their games back in a huge sale, because Nordic is greedy and wants to take advantage of GOG and its users? But GOG is pure as snow in this because they're, I don't know, naive? I honestly don't understand...
As far as I understand it, and I believe it should be cleared up before I argue any further, GOG did not request temporarily bringing the games back.
Posted December 20, 2014
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yyahoo: So you're blaming Nordic for agreeing to GOG's request to temporarily bring their games back in a huge sale, because Nordic is greedy and wants to take advantage of GOG and its users? But GOG is pure as snow in this because they're, I don't know, naive? I honestly don't understand...
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lazydog: As far as I understand it, and I believe it should be cleared up before I argue any further, GOG did not request temporarily bringing the games back.
Where did you get that?
Posted December 20, 2014
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lazydog: As far as I understand it, and I believe it should be cleared up before I argue any further, GOG did not request temporarily bringing the games back.
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yyahoo: Where did you get that?
I am asking a simple question: you claim in your previous post that GOG asked for the game to come back temporarily.

Unless I am missing something, I see no proof of that.
Posted December 20, 2014
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yyahoo: Where did you get that?
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lazydog: I am asking a simple question: you claim in your previous post that GOG asked for the game to come back temporarily.

Unless I am missing something, I see no proof of that.
It makes sense.

We all know why Nordic left GOG. They stated it clear as day when they left. It was the local currency conversion system. Nordic was uncomfortable with GOG listing regular, non-sale prices lower in local currencies than their other digital and B&M distributors. Before it was okay because it wasn't that obvious since the dollar prices were always the same everywhere and currency conversion happened invisibly in the background.

Knowing the problem, it's clear that there will be no solution until a way is found to get all of GOG's displayed prices equal with all of Nordic's other distributor's. The most likely method for this would be (ugh) regional pricing. But neither company is budging. Nordic doesn't want their games advertised with the currency converted and GOG doesn't want "classic" game available regionally priced.

Of course GOG wants Nordic back permanently. I'm sure Nordic wants back permanently too. But they each know what it will take to get them back. If GOG made some special request for Nordic to come back permanently without concessions on either side, it would be understood that it would have to be a temporary return. i.e. GOG says "Nordic will you come back?" Nordic responds "Not unless we can get this pricing thing straightened out." GOG compromises with "Well, will you come back for a big temporary sale to give our users that didn't catch your original going away sale a chance to buy your games as well? Pretty please?" Nordic "Well, since you asked nicely. It sure wouldn't hurt our bottom line." And viola...

Regardless of how it happened, I certainly see no proof that GOG didn't agree to a temporary return. And I do see proof that GOG initiated this sale... {shrug}
Post edited December 20, 2014 by yyahoo
Posted December 20, 2014
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lazydog: I am asking a simple question: you claim in your previous post that GOG asked for the game to come back temporarily.

Unless I am missing something, I see no proof of that.
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yyahoo: It makes sense.

We all know why Nordic left GOG. They stated it clear as day when they left. It was the local currency conversion system. Nordic was uncomfortable with GOG listing regular, non-sale prices lower in local currencies than their other digital and B&M distributors. Before it was okay because it wasn't that obvious since the dollar prices were always the same everywhere and currency conversion happened invisibly in the background.

Knowing the problem, it's clear that there will be no solution until a way is found to get all of GOG's displayed prices equal with all of Nordic's other distributor's. The most likely method for this would be (ugh) regional pricing. But neither company is budging. Nordic doesn't want their games advertised with the currency converted and GOG doesn't want "classic" game available regionally priced.

Of course GOG wants Nordic back permanently. I'm sure Nordic wants back permanently too. But they each know what it will take to get them back. If GOG made some special request for Nordic to come back permanently without concessions on either side, it would be understood that it would have to be a temporary return. i.e. GOG says "Nordic will you come back?" Nordic responds "Not unless we can get this pricing thing straightened out." GOG compromises with "Well, will you come back for a big temporary sale to give our users that didn't catch your original going away sale a chance to buy your games as well? Pretty please?" Nordic "Well, since you asked nicely. It sure wouldn't hurt our bottom line." And viola...

Regardless of how it happened, I certainly see no proof that GOG didn't agree to a temporary return. And I do see proof that GOG initiated this sale... {shrug}
This is a detailed post and I respect that.

But the fact remains that a problem existed that led to a split and now that problem has been solved....temporarily.

A problem is resolved or it is not resolved.

Somebody is making temporary concessions based on facts we don't have.

I personally believe it is Nordic that are responsible for this. It is just another dick move by a publisher. What better way to boost sales of your product than to let cry that old maxim 'limited edition' and 'timed exclusive'

You seem like a nice fellow and I am arguing a point, not arguing against you personally, I hope you understand.

In my opinion, Nordic are either in or they are out-no in-between.

In/out/shake it all about, neither GOG nor Nordic can justify this kind of behaviour.
Posted December 20, 2014
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yyahoo: It makes sense.

We all know why Nordic left GOG. They stated it clear as day when they left. It was the local currency conversion system. Nordic was uncomfortable with GOG listing regular, non-sale prices lower in local currencies than their other digital and B&M distributors. Before it was okay because it wasn't that obvious since the dollar prices were always the same everywhere and currency conversion happened invisibly in the background.

Knowing the problem, it's clear that there will be no solution until a way is found to get all of GOG's displayed prices equal with all of Nordic's other distributor's. The most likely method for this would be (ugh) regional pricing. But neither company is budging. Nordic doesn't want their games advertised with the currency converted and GOG doesn't want "classic" game available regionally priced.

Of course GOG wants Nordic back permanently. I'm sure Nordic wants back permanently too. But they each know what it will take to get them back. If GOG made some special request for Nordic to come back permanently without concessions on either side, it would be understood that it would have to be a temporary return. i.e. GOG says "Nordic will you come back?" Nordic responds "Not unless we can get this pricing thing straightened out." GOG compromises with "Well, will you come back for a big temporary sale to give our users that didn't catch your original going away sale a chance to buy your games as well? Pretty please?" Nordic "Well, since you asked nicely. It sure wouldn't hurt our bottom line." And viola...

Regardless of how it happened, I certainly see no proof that GOG didn't agree to a temporary return. And I do see proof that GOG initiated this sale... {shrug}
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lazydog: This is a detailed post and I respect that.

But the fact remains that a problem existed that led to a split and now that problem has been solved....temporarily.

A problem is resolved or it is not resolved.

Somebody is making temporary concessions based on facts we don't have.

I personally believe it is Nordic that are responsible for this. It is just another dick move by a publisher. What better way to boost sales of your product than to let cry that old maxim 'limited edition' and 'timed exclusive'

You seem like a nice fellow and I am arguing a point, not arguing against you personally, I hope you understand.

In my opinion, Nordic are either in or they are out-no in-between.

In/out/shake it all about, neither GOG nor Nordic can justify this kind of behaviour.
I'm glad there's no hard feelings in our little argument. I think we just see things differently.

All I know is that GOG initiated this. They said they were the ones that "asked nicely". I don't see why it matters who first suggested in the conversation that a temporary sale be done. Both parties agreed to it.

Every business does what it takes to make the most money it can. I see nothing wrong with Nordic wanting to earn some additional revenue. If "Nordic is responsible", I say kudos to them.

In truth, it was GOG's business decision to change to advertising local currencies that caused Nordic to leave. GOG made a business decision that it was better to be able to market prices in local currencies than it was to stay where they were and keep Nordic. To be perfectly honest, I understand Nordic's decision to leave more than I understand GOG's decision to advertise with local currencies.

I know where you're coming from. I've seen plenty of repeated "going out of business" sales from sleazy businesses in my area. I just don't think that's the case here. Now, if there's another "last chance" sale, I'll eat my hat, apologize, and agree with you that there's something sleazy going on. Until then, I'm just going to take this as a sign that GOG and Nordic still have a good working relationship and the possibility of a permanent return is still real...
Posted December 20, 2014
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lazydog: This is a detailed post and I respect that.

But the fact remains that a problem existed that led to a split and now that problem has been solved....temporarily.

A problem is resolved or it is not resolved.

Somebody is making temporary concessions based on facts we don't have.

I personally believe it is Nordic that are responsible for this. It is just another dick move by a publisher. What better way to boost sales of your product than to let cry that old maxim 'limited edition' and 'timed exclusive'

You seem like a nice fellow and I am arguing a point, not arguing against you personally, I hope you understand.

In my opinion, Nordic are either in or they are out-no in-between.

In/out/shake it all about, neither GOG nor Nordic can justify this kind of behaviour.
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yyahoo: I'm glad there's no hard feelings in our little argument. I think we just see things differently.

All I know is that GOG initiated this. They said they were the ones that "asked nicely". I don't see why it matters who first suggested in the conversation that a temporary sale be done. Both parties agreed to it.

Every business does what it takes to make the most money it can. I see nothing wrong with Nordic wanting to earn some additional revenue. If "Nordic is responsible", I say kudos to them.

In truth, it was GOG's business decision to change to advertising local currencies that caused Nordic to leave. GOG made a business decision that it was better to be able to market prices in local currencies than it was to stay where they were and keep Nordic. To be perfectly honest, I understand Nordic's decision to leave more than I understand GOG's decision to advertise with local currencies.

I know where you're coming from. I've seen plenty of repeated "going out of business" sales from sleazy businesses in my area. I just don't think that's the case here. Now, if there's another "last chance" sale, I'll eat my hat, apologize, and agree with you that there's something sleazy going on. Until then, I'm just going to take this as a sign that GOG and Nordic still have a good working relationship and the possibility of a permanent return is still real...
Whilst I suspect I am a great deal more cynical than you, I can see your point.

We shall wait and see then:)
Posted December 20, 2014
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yyahoo: I'm glad there's no hard feelings in our little argument. I think we just see things differently.

All I know is that GOG initiated this. They said they were the ones that "asked nicely". I don't see why it matters who first suggested in the conversation that a temporary sale be done. Both parties agreed to it.

Every business does what it takes to make the most money it can. I see nothing wrong with Nordic wanting to earn some additional revenue. If "Nordic is responsible", I say kudos to them.

In truth, it was GOG's business decision to change to advertising local currencies that caused Nordic to leave. GOG made a business decision that it was better to be able to market prices in local currencies than it was to stay where they were and keep Nordic. To be perfectly honest, I understand Nordic's decision to leave more than I understand GOG's decision to advertise with local currencies.

I know where you're coming from. I've seen plenty of repeated "going out of business" sales from sleazy businesses in my area. I just don't think that's the case here. Now, if there's another "last chance" sale, I'll eat my hat, apologize, and agree with you that there's something sleazy going on. Until then, I'm just going to take this as a sign that GOG and Nordic still have a good working relationship and the possibility of a permanent return is still real...
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lazydog: Whilst I suspect I am a great deal more cynical than you, I can see your point.

We shall wait and see then:)
Hehe, there are few that are more cynical than I. :) I'm cynical about people. I'm realistic about businesses (I have a business degree and work in product pricing and development). I also think I just have a soft spot in my heart for Nordic that you don't. Nordic was the one publisher that would actually interact with the GOG community in threads for their game releases and sales. They also posted in both the Last Chance Sale thread giving an honest straightforward reason for their departure and in this thread as well wishing everyone a happy holiday. I have a lot of respect for that.
Posted December 20, 2014
It would be nice if Nordic temporarily released Black Mirror 3 for those who wanted to finish the trilogy on GOG.
Posted December 21, 2014
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bitterbohemian: It would be nice if Nordic temporarily released Black Mirror 3 for those who wanted to finish the trilogy on GOG.
+1
Posted December 21, 2014
Help! I'm so tempted by the low prices and all the pretty colors in the screenshots and I still can't bring myself to buy anything! There goes my chance to seriously increase my huge backlog for a couple of bucks - what the hell is wrong with me? ;)

Seriously though, I feel like I already own the titles worth playing from my perspective (Gothic 2, Painkiller, Red Faction, Critter Chronicles, Dark Fall 1 & 2, Silver). I'm somewhat curious about the following, but from what I've read it seems they're really nothing all that special compared to many games in my collection I haven't played through yet. Can anyone come up with a reason why I'm wrong and why I should try one of these nevertheless? Or confirm that I wouldn't miss out on much by skipping them?

I'm interested in:
- Gothic 3
- Spellforce 2 (Shadow Wars)
- The Black Mirror
- Summoner
- Red Faction 2
- Aquanox 1 or 2
Post edited December 21, 2014 by Leroux
Posted December 21, 2014
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Leroux: Help! I'm so tempted by the low prices and all the pretty colors in the screenshots and I still can't bring myself to buy anything! There goes my chance to seriously increase my huge backlog for a couple of bucks - what the hell is wrong with me? ;)

Seriously though, I feel like I already own the titles worth playing from my perspective (Gothic 2, Painkiller, Red Faction, Critter Chronicles, Dark Fall 1 & 2, Silver). I'm somewhat curious about the following, but from what I've read it seems they're really nothing all that special compared to many games in my collection I haven't played through yet. Can anyone come up with a reason why I'm wrong and why I should try one of these nevertheless? Or confirm that I wouldn't miss out on much by skipping them?

I'm interested in:
- Gothic 3
- Spellforce 2 (Shadow Wars)
- The Black Mirror
- Summoner
- Red Faction 2
- Aquanox 1 or 2
I would get Spellforce, think a better Warcraft 3 with a persistent gameworld
Posted December 21, 2014
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Leroux: Help! I'm so tempted by the low prices and all the pretty colors in the screenshots and I still can't bring myself to buy anything! There goes my chance to seriously increase my huge backlog for a couple of bucks - what the hell is wrong with me? ;)

Seriously though, I feel like I already own the titles worth playing from my perspective (Gothic 2, Painkiller, Red Faction, Critter Chronicles, Dark Fall 1 & 2, Silver). I'm somewhat curious about the following, but from what I've read it seems they're really nothing all that special compared to many games in my collection I haven't played through yet. Can anyone come up with a reason why I'm wrong and why I should try one of these nevertheless? Or confirm that I wouldn't miss out on much by skipping them?

I'm interested in:
- Gothic 3
- Spellforce 2 (Shadow Wars)
- The Black Mirror
- Summoner
- Red Faction 2
- Aquanox 1 or 2
I would go with SpellForce 2 and Summoner.
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