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Posted May 08, 2011
Patches cannot be considered an additional content. It's like with cars: when you buy one you expect it to work, if it doesn't the producer has to mend it for you. It's called warranty.
Posted May 08, 2011
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Summit: Patches cannot be considered an additional content. It's like with cars: when you buy one you expect it to work, if it doesn't the producer has to mend it for you. It's called warranty.
Normally this is true, but 1: Games are data not a physical product, and 2: EULA lines stating games are sold as is.
Posted May 08, 2011
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GameRager: It makes me laugh and feel sorry for you when some of the biggest opponents of what CDPR was doing(xyem, snickersnack, scorpionscythe) have already made up with Gog/CDPR over this....yet you still feel the need to nitpick.
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Wesker: Why, of course, I don't expect you not to "laugh and feel sorry" for anyone not agreeing with you. Let me guess, you would have jumped at the last poster, whatsoever?

As you put it, " some of the biggest opponents" having made up means that "some" people have not been convinced. The point is, buying TW2 involves two possibilities:

1. purchasing it from a retailer/online distributor:
one-time mandatory online activation
registration in order to patch

2. GOG's version
no activation at installation...
...but compulsory activation in order to patch!

That is, unless you wait for an update that might as well come within two months (and then I'm fine with it) or come with a general patch that removes the DRM for all versions (then what's the use for the GOG's version? having been able to play simultaneously on five computers at home?).

What if I want to use separate computers for internet access and playing? Well, the official answer is, "Too bad for you!".


Oh, Mr Longino, please excuse me, but since you claim to have successfully haggled about some points, I will insist and ask you to back up your claim, otherwise I'll believe nothing has changed and this is a stunt. ;)
I agree that the patch system sucks but you can back up your game after this is completed. Think about it; you can do one of two things normally:

1. Download a patch file, save it to your hardrive (create a copy for backup), and install whenever you like.

2. Register to download a patch and have it install immediately. Afterwards, back up the patched version of the entire game DRM free.

At the end of the day you will still have a DRM free patched version of the game. Its just a bit more of a pain to do the 2nd way. Still, I can meet a company like GOG half way on this because they are really showing they care about the consumer (at least in my opinion).

On another note as well: I am in no way trying to change your mind. I am just sharing my personal viewpoints.
Post edited May 08, 2011 by Scorpionscythe
Posted May 08, 2011
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Scorpionscythe: 2. Register to download a patch and have it install immediately. Afterwards, back up the patched version of the entire game DRM free.
Providing the patch doesn't add some DRM.. :P
Posted May 08, 2011
Registration for patching ... hmmm. Thats OK as long as no addtional DRM is added during patching and 4 years down the pike I restinstall on an new machine and it refuses to patch me because am registered on too many machines or something like that.
Post edited May 08, 2011 by tacitus59
Posted May 08, 2011
TheEnigmaticT to the rescue!
Posted May 08, 2011
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Scorpionscythe: 2. Register to download a patch and have it install immediately. Afterwards, back up the patched version of the entire game DRM free.
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xyem: Providing the patch doesn't add some DRM.. :P
That was also my concern and asked that very question and here was the reply:


"Scorpionscythe: Are the patches themselves delivered DRM free?
Yes. The patch doesn't check, once you've downloaded it through the launcher, back on the servers, whether it's on the same computer it was before, or any other form of controlling how you want to use it."
Posted May 08, 2011
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Scorpionscythe: ...
>.>

Apparently I didn't read your post properly. For some reason, I thought you were making a general statement (not one about TW2 specifically). Oops! Sorry!
Posted May 08, 2011
Doesn't bother me because I won't be buying this until both: 1) the version I get no longer has SecuRom (for a non-GoG edition); and 2) Is under $20 (which I doubt GoG will ever drop it to on their website).

Edit: Although from my understanding the GoG edition will still have DRM, just GoG DRM -- oh the irony. Of course some people are arguing that you can simply play it without the patches... which I suppose you could but only if there are no game breaking bugs. And 'lol' at anyone arguing patches are 'content.'
Post edited May 08, 2011 by Metro09
Posted May 08, 2011
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Metro09: Edit: Although from my understanding the GoG edition will still have DRM, just GoG DRM -- oh the irony. Of course some people are arguing that you can simply play it without the patches... which I suppose you could but only if there are no game breaking bugs. And 'lol' at anyone arguing patches are 'content.'
This is the point. It's hard to say exactly how crippled the game is going to be at launch without patching, but the best case scenario is that it's only going to require a patch to add support for monitors that aren't 16:9, and I'd be surprised if there weren't more patches necessary to fix more serious bugs.

EULAs can do a lot of things, but they can't get you off the hook for providing a defective product.
Posted May 08, 2011
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Metro09: Edit: Although from my understanding the GoG edition will still have DRM, just GoG DRM -- oh the irony. Of course some people are arguing that you can simply play it without the patches... which I suppose you could but only if there are no game breaking bugs. And 'lol' at anyone arguing patches are 'content.'
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hedwards: This is the point. It's hard to say exactly how crippled the game is going to be at launch without patching, but the best case scenario is that it's only going to require a patch to add support for monitors that aren't 16:9, and I'd be surprised if there weren't more patches necessary to fix more serious bugs.

EULAs can do a lot of things, but they can't get you off the hook for providing a defective product.
Tell that to all the companies who relased buggy games and never patched them properly and left it to the community to do so. :P
Posted May 08, 2011
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GameRager: Tell that to all the companies who relased buggy games and never patched them properly and left it to the community to do so. :P
They tend to get away with it because it's not normally cost effective to sue. And with SCOTUS making it all the more difficult to get class action status, I'd expect it to get even worse.

It definitely sucks living in a country with few consumer protections.
Posted May 08, 2011
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GameRager: Tell that to all the companies who relased buggy games and never patched them properly and left it to the community to do so. :P
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hedwards: They tend to get away with it because it's not normally cost effective to sue. And with SCOTUS making it all the more difficult to get class action status, I'd expect it to get even worse.

It definitely sucks living in a country with few consumer protections.
Or maybe the userbase doesn't feel most of the time that a buggy game is worth the trouble?
Posted May 09, 2011
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lukipela: Buggy games are the best.

All your base and such.
OMG, the sarcasm metre is off the charts!

Time to buy bigger charts then, I guess.

Also YES....some don't feel it's worth the time to sue over 50 bucks spent on a buggy unpatched game.
Posted May 09, 2011
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GameRager: OMG, the sarcasm metre is off the charts!

Time to buy bigger charts then, I guess.

Also YES....some don't feel it's worth the time to sue over 50 bucks spent on a buggy unpatched game.
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lukipela: This is why you shouldnt buy a game in the first week if you intend to run away to an island where you will not have an internet connection.
I agree actually with this sentiment.
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