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slash11: Why should i realease a paper now ?
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klaymen: To show us that your claims are based on some knowledge and experience instead of rumors, hearsay and assumptions.

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slash11: It is NIST who must provide a convincing argument of the collapse but they can't,
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klaymen: No. Since you (and all the conspiration theorists) claim that NIST lies, it is up to you to come with the proof.
Ok then i must check the latest report of NIST, it was a long time ago like 3-4 years ago i looked everything up and came to the conclusion that 9/11 is a rip off. I must then check the latest NIST report but i can keep my opinion for myself that is no problem or ?

If they would not have destroyed all the evidence like the steel columns then it would be easy to proof but since they sold them to china very fast it is hard to check it.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by slash11
http://www.debunking911.com/wtc7swd.jpg
SouthWest corner of WTC7 - clearly showing massive damage to the building.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
Video of South side of WTC7 clearly showing the massive damage, and some fires, just as clearly not "small and unlikely to cause major damage".

http://www.debunking911.com/wtcc.jpg
WTC7 is middle building, behind. Clearly shown here taking massive damage. As is, to a lesser degree, the building on the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4SEhMpbo74
North-side WTC7 and raging fires on lower floors - because they're just gone from the damage (remember, North side of WTC7 was away from the collapsing WTC1+2).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQpXHonBuMc
WTC7 and commentary from a fireman watching the fires. 33 seconds : "Look at the hole in that building." Where all the dust and smoke is billowing from.

There's more of the same. If you look.
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Lone3wolf: http://www.debunking911.com/wtc7swd.jpg
SouthWest corner of WTC7 - clearly showing massive damage to the building.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
Video of South side of WTC7 clearly showing the massive damage, and some fires, just as clearly not "small and unlikely to cause major damage".

http://www.debunking911.com/wtcc.jpg
WTC7 is middle building, behind. Clearly shown here taking massive damage. As is, to a lesser degree, the building on the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4SEhMpbo74
North-side WTC7 and raging fires on lower floors - because they're just gone from the damage (remember, North side of WTC7 was away from the collapsing WTC1+2).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQpXHonBuMc
WTC7 and commentary from a fireman watching the fires. 33 seconds : "Look at the hole in that building." Where all the dust and smoke is billowing from.

There's more of the same. If you look.
I have looked up your videos but still they cannot convince me and why ?
Just overlook the damage that is done by the fire and the debris.
The steel columns must be destroyed so that the building can go down in this manner, perfect symmetrically and it was in like i think 6-7 seconds, i must look it up again.
Notice that never in history steel structure buildings were destroyed by fire and why ?
Because fire cannot melt steel. On 9/11 there have been 3 !
Alright, I hate to butt in here again, but the collapse of WTC7 was not "perfectly symmetrical". It is clearly falling over slowly during the collapse.
slash111 why are you so obsessed with this?

Your motives seem very odd given your location matches the birthplace of a former propaganda spewing dictator.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Kabuto
I just took now a random site but only to show the picture of the cutted steel column.


http://www.reachingtruth.com/controlleddemolition.html

Notice the cut off steel column with molten steel around it.
This is using explosives....
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Kabuto: slash111 why are you so obsessed with this?

Your motives seem very odd given your location matches the birthplace of a former propaganda spewing dictator.
Im not obsessed with it but why should they get away with it ?
Post edited May 28, 2011 by slash11
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slash11: I highly recommend the movie

9/11 missing links

you can watch it on youtube or on sites it is no problem
It will expose the true masterminds behind 9/11.
Osama Bin Laden is just a hoax, fiction, a hollywood production
Do you really believe that? Please don't tell me you do? ;)
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slash11: I highly recommend the movie

9/11 missing links

you can watch it on youtube or on sites it is no problem
It will expose the true masterminds behind 9/11.
Osama Bin Laden is just a hoax, fiction, a hollywood production
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Sirkenneloth: Do you really believe that? Please don't tell me you do? ;)
Is it not obvious; even the italian Francisco and many others say Mossad did it.
Check out Dr. Alan Sabrosky from the US Army College who also says Israel pulled off 9/11
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Sirkenneloth: Do you really believe that? Please don't tell me you do? ;)
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slash11: Is it not obvious; even the italian Francisco and many others say Mossad did it.
Check out Dr. Alan Sabrosky from the US Army College who also says Israel pulled off 9/11
Bin Laden was on the CIA payslist ;) I mean comeone it's all clear the taliban was behind this.
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slash11: Is it not obvious; even the italian Francisco and many others say Mossad did it.
Check out Dr. Alan Sabrosky from the US Army College who also says Israel pulled off 9/11
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Sirkenneloth: Bin Laden was on the CIA payslist ;) I mean comeone it's all clear the taliban was behind this.
The informations for this film are from CIA, FBI etc.
All conspiracy nuts ??
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Sirkenneloth: Bin Laden was on the CIA payslist ;) I mean comeone it's all clear the taliban was behind this.
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slash11: The informations for this film are from CIA, FBI etc.
All conspiracy nuts ??
I just don't believe that all what they are telling is the truth and america is still not telling all. But what happend happend lets just all get on with our lives.
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slash11: The informations for this film are from CIA, FBI etc.
All conspiracy nuts ??
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Sirkenneloth: I just don't believe that all what they are telling is the truth and america is still not telling all. But what happend happend lets just all get on with our lives.
Of course our lives go on but do you love to be lied to and your people sent to wars you do not want ?
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slash11: I have looked up your videos but still they cannot convince me and why ?
Just overlook the damage that is done by the fire and the debris.
The steel columns must be destroyed so that the building can go down in this manner, perfect symmetrically and it was in like i think 6-7 seconds, i must look it up again.
Notice that never in history steel structure buildings were destroyed by fire and why ?
Because fire cannot melt steel. On 9/11 there have been 3 !
Overlook the damage?
Whut? You're ignoring one of the contributing causes because it doesn't fit your preconceptions? O_o
That pretty much sums up you, and all "Truthers" out there. Ignore what doesn't fit, and leave, twist, and add what can support you.

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
How many MORE times do we have to tell you that the steel does NOT have to be destroyed?
At 650 degrees C it has ~50% the structural strength of steel at room temperature.
At ~1,000 degrees C, (well within the range a NORMAL fire reaches) it has less than 10% the structural strength. And with the fire-proofing knocked off parts - to all in a section of the building - due to aircraft strike, or building debris knocking it off, enough steel will be exposed to the heat. Destroyed. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA! :facepalm:
It'll sag, and the more weight on it, the more it'll sag. It'll not be able to support the weight of the building, and cause a collapse, pulling the attached steel beams and concrete in on it as it does so, which is seen time and again in ALL three building collapses!

Of course, fire wasn't the sole contributor to the failure, here, and everyone knows it! A plane, another plane, and rubble from the South Tower striking WTC7 helped those failures, too.

But you'll note, or should note, it took hours for WTC1+2 to fail, and collapse - it was not an immediate failure.
It also took WTC7 7 or 8 hours to fail and collapse, again, not an immediate failure, by any stretch of "Truthers" claims.

Please, go away until you can provide something a little less hilarious and more realistic.
Still you must cut off the steel columns at all cost or you cannot take down the steel structures in this manner. There are many examples of steel structures of burning for 15+ hours and still the steel strucutre was intact. The reason is : Fire cannot melt steel.
If you see the picture i delivered here it shows a clear 45 Degree cut of a steel column.
Typical for a controlled demolition. You MUST destroy the steel columns or you won't get such a demoltion like you see for WTC 1,2,7.
Now you're just parroting baseless claims that are demonstrably false.

Provide citations that SHOW that steel must be destroyed to trigger a building collapse.
Not just "conspiracy sites" that have little factual value, only fabricated opinion.