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Neobr10: GOG doesnt use cracks, as far as im aware of. They would have to ask Bethesda to remove DRM, NOT hacking groups.
They do use cracks, actually:

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/gog_arcanum_release_uses_warez_scene_crack/page1
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Snickersnack: Don't worry, if the warez scene can remove GFWL and Steam requirements so can GOG. ;)
Do you really want to see both crashfest and bugfest when playing? Unless the game's source is heavily modified, the Steamworks-using games usually are very buggy and crash-prone when Steamworks is removed.
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Neobr10: GOG doesnt use cracks, as far as im aware of.
Actually they do. But I'm not going to write more on this subject, even though I disagree with that behaviour.
Post edited April 11, 2012 by kavazovangel
The only thing preventing me from purchasing the Ultimate Edition of New Vegas is the unethical forced requirement of the anti-consumer trash that is Steam... So yeah, if it came here, I'd buy it.
No problems with higher price points as long as there are better promotions or the price will drop after some time. Personally I would not buy these games for 30$, because I don't want afford for a single game. I don't buy newer games and for an older title it's too much. But again, no problem if GOG would offer it for 30$, I have no urge and can wait for a price-drop.
Post edited April 12, 2012 by DukeNukemForever
I'd think "great games, but kind of overpriced" (New Vegas less so). And I own them already anyway.
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Snickersnack: Don't worry, if the warez scene can remove GFWL and Steam requirements so can GOG. ;)
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kavazovangel: Do you really want to see both crashfest and bugfest when playing? Unless the game's source is heavily modified, the Steamworks-using games usually are very buggy and crash-prone when Steamworks is removed.
I have to remember that next time someone suggests that in the "unlikely" event that Steam would ever close down, he would simply crack all his Steam games. :)

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Neobr10: GOG doesnt use cracks, as far as im aware of.
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kavazovangel: Actually they do. But I'm not going to write more on this subject, even though I disagree with that behaviour.
As long as the copyright holder is fine with GOG using 3rd party cracks with their releases, I don't see any real problem (as long as GOG is able to locate and verify the needed files). After all, sometimes even the original IP holders have used pirate cracks in order to remove a non-functional DRM from their own games.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/26498099

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DukeNukemForever: No problems with higher price points as long as there are better promotions or the price will drop after some time. Personally I would not buy these games for 30$, because I don't want afford for a single game. I don't buy newer games and for an older title it's too much. But again, no problem if GOG would offer it for 30$, I have no urge and can wait for a price-drop.
I'd buy them to my backlog at least if GOG made a similar "get one free" promo as with HOMM V + Assassin's Creed. I think currently I'd be willing to pay e.g. $30 for both FO3 + F:NV (all DLC included) together, no hesitation and no questions asked. Some hesitation if the price is considerably higher.

But as long as they are Steam-only games, I'll hold off of buyi... renting them until I'm sure I'll start playing them in the near future (currently I'm busy with Baldur's Gate mostly). Maybe they can be rented as a bundle for $3 then from Steam, which is ok to me I guess.
Post edited April 12, 2012 by timppu
Bethesda will never release its games on GOG for the simple reason that they are setting up their own digital distribution company.

It's called "Scrolls" and funded by their ridiculous skyrim profits.

You heard it here first.
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PMIK: Bethesda will never release its games on GOG for the simple reason that they are setting up their own digital distribution company.

It's called "Scrolls" and funded by their ridiculous skyrim profits.

You heard it here first.
Mojang gonna be pissed.
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Snickersnack: Don't worry, if the warez scene can remove GFWL and Steam requirements so can GOG. ;)
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kavazovangel: Do you really want to see both crashfest and bugfest when playing? Unless the game's source is heavily modified, the Steamworks-using games usually are very buggy and crash-prone when Steamworks is removed.
Don't be so nervous Kavazovangel! I'm sure GOG will help you QA.
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Snickersnack: Don't be so nervous Kavazovangel! I'm sure GOG will help you QA.
How am I being nervous?
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timppu: I'd buy them to my backlog at least if GOG made a similar "get one free" promo as with HOMM V + Assassin's Creed. I think currently I'd be willing to pay e.g. $30 for both FO3 + F:NV (all DLC included) together, no hesitation and no questions asked. Some hesitation if the price is considerably higher.

But as long as they are Steam-only games, I'll hold off of buyi... renting them until I'm sure I'll start playing them in the near future (currently I'm busy with Baldur's Gate mostly). Maybe they can be rented as a bundle for $3 then from Steam, which is ok to me I guess.
Almost the same here. I also bought the pack, but 10$ for a single game is at the moment my personal top limit, for what otherwise we have wishlists. Backlog ist big enough and I try to spend not too much on one hobby, what sometimes can be really hard and fails. And talking about a GOG-release, it's of course the complete edition with all DLCs and drm-free ;-) Because I want to backup all my stuff and don't Ilike client systems my resources for buying games are limited to a few shops and such sales are outside of my recognition. What the eye does not see, the heart does not grieve over.;-)
Nah, already own both games.
Why are you guys still discussing about something that will NEVER happen?

First, bring Morrowind and/or Oblivion here DRM Free, then dream about Fallout 3 and NV.
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keeveek: Why are you guys still discussing about something that will NEVER happen?
Yes, you definitely had such a good argument before proving just that:

"I think that Bethesda will never put any game DRM-Free here. "

It could never possibly happen, because Keeveek _thinks_ so. Case's closed, everyone shut up and go home. You are annoying Keeveek with your discussion.

I bet you were highly irritated that e.g. Assassin's Creed appeared here. I can't understand why some people are so much against more games appearing here. I mean, come on, why would Ubisoft release AC here, as everyone who ever cared about the game would have gotten it elsewhere already, right?

Anyway, this whole discussion was quite hypothetical anyway, no reason for you to get so overly annoyed by it.
Post edited April 13, 2012 by timppu
No, not because I think so. But because that never happened, and the evidence (putting Fallout: NV as steamworks game) shows that this is VERY unlikely to happen.

But here you go, move along with this pointless discussion, it's pretty amusing.


And no, I am not irritated about AC at all, because it was released DRM free long time ago., no surprises.
Post edited April 13, 2012 by keeveek