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Posted February 24, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: You're free to do whatever you like, of course, but I don't think bitching against GOG will make regional pricing go away- like I said in a previous post, this is something which needs to be addressed, by those who care about it, at a law-making level.
I think most people were angry at gog for actually doing it the way they did. Announcing it in the middle of a news which started by "Good News !", instead of actually coming through with it and saying they were ditching it.
Most people bitching about it are probably afraid that this will mean some other things from gog aren't essential either, like the DRM-free part.
The way GOG handled it (censoring videos on youtube and such) was pretty f**ked up and led to a bit of paranoia...
Posted February 24, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: ...this is something which needs to be addressed, by those who care about it, at a law-making level.
How? Which country? Seriously, what laws where could solve this problem? Unless we manage to get it into international trade agreements I can't see anything else being relevent, and even then the seller can just base them selves somewhere not covered by the agreement.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by _Bruce_
Posted February 24, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: ...this is something which needs to be addressed, by those who care about it, at a law-making level.
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_Bruce_: How? Which country? Seriously, what laws where could solve this problem? Unless we manage to get it into international trade agreements I can't see anything else being relevent, and even then the seller can just base them selves somewhere not covered by the agreement.
You're from Australia, right? Start there for yourself, maybe others will follow suit.

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cmdr_flashheart: You're free to do whatever you like, of course, but I don't think bitching against GOG will make regional pricing go away- like I said in a previous post, this is something which needs to be addressed, by those who care about it, at a law-making level.
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Faenrir: I think most people were angry at gog for actually doing it the way they did. Announcing it in the middle of a news which started by "Good News !", instead of actually coming through with it and saying they were ditching it.
Most people bitching about it are probably afraid that this will mean some other things from gog aren't essential either, like the DRM-free part.
The way GOG handled it (censoring videos on youtube and such) was pretty f**ked up and led to a bit of paranoia...
That's understandable- I mean, they did let go a characteristic point of their store, but was there any good way to do this? I think I remember a survey from long ago, but I don't remember what resulted from it regarding regional pricing.

Also, I don't know about the YT videos or whatever, but some types of videos can count as slander, so if they targeted those, I don't think that was wrong.

You'll hate me for saying this, but I do count it as good news that GOG is possibly getting more AAA games, so...sorry :\
Post edited February 24, 2014 by cmdr_flashheart
Posted February 24, 2014
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_Bruce_: How? Which country? Seriously, what laws where could solve this problem? Unless we manage to get it into international trade agreements I can't see anything else being relevent, and even then the seller can just base them selves somewhere not covered by the agreement.
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cmdr_flashheart: You're from Australia, right? Start there for yourself, maybe others will follow suit.
You misunderstand. What law could Australia pass to fix this problem? GOG is not an Australian company.
Posted February 24, 2014
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gooberking: Currently they are only doing it for three new games. Games we theoretically would not have otherwise. If they were doing it across the board then maybe I would better understand, but the idea someone would boycott the entire catalog over something that couldn't really have been considered fair in the first place seems like an over reaction, if not a little ungrateful. As it stands GOG is still the best shop buy from, and if they can't earn someone's dollars, then there really isn't anywhere else to go. There may be other shops that haven't recently pissed people off, but they sure won't have any better values to be rewarding if that is what the point is.

I'm sorry for people that get screwed a bit in this, and I'm sorry it's probably not a super popular or sensitive thing to say, but if one has to choose battles then regional pricing wasn't one worth fighting if is keeping games off the store. Maybe Gog would have been better off never trying flat pricing or making a big deal about it, but I'm personally interested in seeing if there is a positive side of this in terms of greater content. For their sake there better be some humdingers lined up, because they are paying a price for the opportunity.
Right, and theoretically, could cause doors to fly open on a bunch of titles that we might not ever have otherwise. There's a reason why sites like Desura stay small, guys. You cannot have your cake and eat it too, and to maintain stances that rigid is like slamming the door on titles many of you will then turn around and lament not having. Granted, this is conjecture and hints from the Blues, but the real irony is that you guys are still holding a grudge over the shut down marketing stunt.

I think people need to stop holding GOG to impossible standards. Again, neither they, nor you, can have your cake and eat it too. Some concessions may need to be made, either by GOG, or by the customers. If you're willing to stop complaining about the titles they can't get, in exchange for continued flat pricing, that COULD be what the trade off IS, folks. If you just want to maintain the indie hipster image for GOG, that's fine, but accept that some properties will never be here in theory because of rigidity over a standard which isn't even their number one stance.

That being said, I live in the US, and I buy most of my games during sales. This doesn't effect me, but I feel for those that it does.
Posted February 24, 2014
If I boycott GOG I wont be a full one at least until all games are regionally priced

I'm also considering buying region priced titles for the purpose of gifting to those harder hit
Posted February 24, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm also considering buying region priced titles for the purpose of gifting to those harder hit
On one hand that is good, on the other it just drives sales of the infringing game.
Posted February 24, 2014
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LiquidOxygen80: Again, neither they, nor you, can have your cake and eat it too.
Well...
First of all, the cake is a lie.
Second, i can eat my cake and have it back...even though i usually choose not to because it's a bit disgusting :p
Posted February 24, 2014
i don't think GOG can do anything for Regional Pricing. That's a bit deeper than publishers of gaming software, i think. But we can affect DRM. Already have. So i support this move if it results in high profile games becoming DRM Free.

GOG remains my exclusive source for computer games. If GOG introduces DRM at some point in the future i will be miffed. But would still buy DRM Free versions. The thing to boycott, if regional pricing is a problem for you, are the games which are regionally priced.
Posted February 24, 2014
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_Bruce_: How? Which country? Seriously, what laws where could solve this problem? Unless we manage to get it into international trade agreements I can't see anything else being relevent, and even then the seller can just base them selves somewhere not covered by the agreement.
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cmdr_flashheart: You're from Australia, right? Start there for yourself, maybe others will follow suit.
The reality is, individuals do not have the time nor resources to begin legal crusades to effect change over things like computer game prices. It simply isn't worth the effort. The typical person will never do this.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: I'm also considering buying region priced titles for the purpose of gifting to those harder hit
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_Bruce_: On one hand that is good, on the other it just drives sales of the infringing game.
that's precisely why it's not totally decided.
Posted February 24, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: You're from Australia, right? Start there for yourself, maybe others will follow suit.
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_Bruce_: You misunderstand. What law could Australia pass to fix this problem? GOG is not an Australian company.
Forget about GOG, that's not the issue here. I don't know what exactly you should do, but here's some easy-to-understand information: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/19/region-locking-we-talk-to-a-lawyer/

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cmdr_flashheart: You're from Australia, right? Start there for yourself, maybe others will follow suit.
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dirtyharry50: The reality is, individuals do not have the time nor resources to begin legal crusades to effect change over things like computer game prices. It simply isn't worth the effort. The typical person will never do this.
That's understandable, but I don't think bitching against GOG will do anything either.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by cmdr_flashheart
Posted February 24, 2014
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Faenrir: That doesn't mean they have to apply to digital goods... x)
If you owned a store and wanted to buy 1,000 copies of a game to sell but knew that same game would be 40% cheaper online would you still stock it? Probably not.
Posted February 24, 2014
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LiquidOxygen80: I think people need to stop holding GOG to impossible standards.
I think the problem many people are having with GOG right now is this:

GOG set the high standards and made a big deal about it too. All these people did was to believe them. Now they feel betrayed and they are upset about it. I don't blame them myself.
Posted February 24, 2014
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Faenrir: That doesn't mean they have to apply to digital goods... x)
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StingingVelvet: If you owned a store and wanted to buy 1,000 copies of a game to sell but knew that same game would be 40% cheaper online would you still stock it? Probably not.
I've never said i wanted stores to stick around though. Video game stores are a thing of the past and need to disappear.
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