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Snickersnack: Who is Bear Grylls? Does he sleep in a camper and light his fires with kerosene?
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cogadh: Bear Grylls is the host of "Man vs. Wild", a show that is supposed to be about showing people how to survive in the unlikely event that you get lost in the wilderness by getting himself lost in the wilderness. A lot of people compare it to the show "Survivorman". However, unlike Survivorman's Les Stroud, Bear Grylls was caught "surviving" with a full camera crew, EMTs, a cell/satellite phone and a nightly hotel stay.

LOL. That's got to be embarrassing.
I wonder why he was chosen for Chief Scout. Scouting isn't about wilderness survival.
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Snickersnack: I wonder why he was chosen for Chief Scout. Scouting isn't about wilderness survival.

Basically it's PR. Bear Grylls is a truly badass guy, in his composure rather than his survival skills. The guy's the youngest man to scale Everest, every Scout's dream. His practical skills are astounding. He is the perfect Scout. The Association hopes that having such an influential figure head will help bring in more adult leaders, which we're severely lacking. We've got 300,000 young members in Britain and only 90,000 adult volunteers. My group is really feeling the strain, so me and some of the other older Scouts are being 'prepared' for Leadership. They've even paid for our training already.
The decision to have camera crew and all was probably the Discovery Channel producers being pussies about his safety or something. If they documented his Everest climb he'd probably have come back down every night by helicopter to sleep at base camp.
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Snickersnack: Who is Bear Grylls? Does he sleep in a camper and light his fires with kerosene?
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cogadh: Bear Grylls is the host of "Man vs. Wild", a show that is supposed to be about showing people how to survive in the unlikely event that you get lost in the wilderness by getting himself lost in the wilderness. A lot of people compare it to the show "Survivorman". However, unlike Survivorman's Les Stroud, Bear Grylls was caught "surviving" with a full camera crew, EMTs, a cell/satellite phone and a nightly hotel stay.

He does shit that Les Stroud would never do so he needs an EMT. He's also way cooler than Les Stroud and the shows a lot better than survivor man because it has a camera crew.
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TheJoe: The decision to have camera crew and all was probably the Discovery Channel producers being pussies about his safety or something. If they documented his Everest climb he'd probably have come back down every night by helicopter to sleep at base camp.

I'm fairly sure helicopters don't wok at those altitudes, your pretty much on your on after a certain point on everest.
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cogadh: Bear Grylls is the host of "Man vs. Wild", a show that is supposed to be about showing people how to survive in the unlikely event that you get lost in the wilderness by getting himself lost in the wilderness. A lot of people compare it to the show "Survivorman". However, unlike Survivorman's Les Stroud, Bear Grylls was caught "surviving" with a full camera crew, EMTs, a cell/satellite phone and a nightly hotel stay.
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Salsa_Shark: He does shit that Les Stroud would never do so he needs an EMT. He's also way cooler than Les Stroud and the shows a lot better than survivor man because it has a camera crew.

That's a matter of opinion, but personally, I would rather trust the advice of a man who is confident enough in his survival skills to go out into the wilderness alone, with no camera crew, no EMTs, no food and only the stuff he happens to have in his pockets than a man who needs and entire support crew and a hotel room to "survive" the wild.
Bear Grylls is ex SAS and has climbed Everest, he's hardly the wuss you're trying to make him out to be.
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cogadh: That's a matter of opinion, but personally, I would rather trust the advice of a man who is confident enough in his survival skills to go out into the wilderness alone, with no camera crew, no EMTs, no food and only the stuff he happens to have in his pockets than a man who needs and entire support crew and a hotel room to "survive" the wild.

He doesn't need all that shit. He could easily survive in the wilderness on his own.I probably should have said that in my opinion the show is better etc but i think its fact that he could easily do all the shit he does without all that stuff. A lot of the stuff he does is unnecessary and flashy but i think it makes the show better to watch. If i wanted an in depth guide on how to survive id read a book if i want to watch a guy do a ton of cool stuff and entertain me while showing me what to do if I'm in a similar situation than ill stick to man vs wild.
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TheJoe: The decision to have camera crew and all was probably the Discovery Channel producers being pussies about his safety or something. If they documented his Everest climb he'd probably have come back down every night by helicopter to sleep at base camp.
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Ralackk: I'm fairly sure helicopters don't wok at those altitudes, your pretty much on your on after a certain point on everest.

They'd think of some way to do it.
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Shure: Bear Grylls is ex SAS and has climbed Everest, he's hardly the wuss you're trying to make him out to be.

I never said he was a wuss, I just don't trust the survival advice of someone who isn't able/willing to actually survive on his own like Les Stroud does. I know Grylls has done all those things, but how much of that did he actually do alone, using only his wits and skills? Probably none of it. Stroud may not have done Everest alone and the entertainment quality of his show might be a bit lower, but its the simple fact that he does the entire thing on his own rates him higher in my book.
We are getting way off-topic here, all I was doing was making an off the cuff and obvious joke about Bear Grylls, no need for everyone to take it so seriously.
Why, yes of course, he can't possibly survive on his own in the wild, because the SAS when split up and isolated are indoctrinated to only go to sleep at night whey they are in the safe confines of an en-suite 3 star hotel. :P
And besides I'd rather he be with a film crew creating interesting footage and scenarios than be without and ending up with a less interesting T.V show.
Which is what it's all about in the end.
Last camping trip I went on, we canoed around 5 miles down a river. On the last quarter mile, the canoe I was in flipped over... Which is why you ALWAYS tie your stuff to the canoe.
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RafaelLopez: Do they call it a movement now?
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TheJoe: Yes, since its governed by separate organisations in different parts of the world. In the UK, we have the Scout Association. Everyone shares the same Chief Scout, though. Which at the moment is Bear Grylls (no joke!).

You didn't explain how does that make it a "movement".
I went into a forest. Once :-D
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RafaelLopez: You didn't explain how does that make it a "movement".

It moves people.