Right. Tat's why I was wondering "what the fuck is everyone talking about?".

*sigh* i was just in no mood to write more than absolutely necessary...

retail risen has only a cd check by tages.
steam risen had limited activations also by tages, which has been removed resently.

there were just hopes ds might also patch tages from the retail version in the same act.

Did this patch affect the Amazon.com version as well? If so that makes it the best digital version of the game of which I'm aware.

no idea. according to my knowledge the steam patch was never officially announced it even took a day to get a more or less official statement(german) of a deep silver employee that the patch removed tages.

i have no idea of the digital distribution of risen through amazon, sorry.

If you stopped acting like disc-checks are DRM then no one would be confused by what you say.

Amazon's version was the first they made DRM-Free, actually. They patched it by the time I made this topic. I suppose it is the best version for the countries that can buy there.

Wouldn't surprise me, no idea what took so long on Steam but the post that they were going to send the build through to make the DRM go away as well is months old already. Glad I decided to put a little faith in it and got it anyway :)

I used to make the same mistake too, long-time gamers find it easy to do so because all the old copy protection platforms (Tages, SecuROM, etc.) suddenly became primarily DRM platforms. Yes, they aren't the same, but it's easy to see why people make the mistake.
Maybe certification. I know at least one game developer told me they had to make and test a whole separate patch for their Steam executable.

Could be yeah, although patches can easily handle on a daily basis too, I've seen problems for Jagged Alliance Back in Action get fixed within a day for instance. The DRM one was probably more involving though.

I have Risen retail any info on the DRM removal patch coming for box editions?

ona side note is Divinty 2 The Dragon night Saga really 100% DRMfree and can anyone point me to a place to buy it? regardless of price if i can obtain a fully DRmfree version of the game i will pay what ever i need to....

no seriously i dont care about price if i can buy a DRmfree version....

You're kidding, right? DKS was 6 USD on Amazon.com, DRM free, all last week:(

Disc-checks are much worse. I would love if they patched it out. I hate DVDs in my mechanic, spinnig for stupid reasons...

Tages. That's the problem here. It might 'only be a disc check' in some respects. But tages is tages and that shit is nasty in any form.

Actually, "just dics checks", screwed my system more than any other DRM. In the end "Starforce" was also "just a disc check". I hope the fuckers that cooked this one up burn in hell.

Oh Starforce... bloody hell. You can say what you like about limited online activations. They are, after all. bloody awful. But at least the damage they do is limited to the game itself.

Starforce on the other hand has made it necessary for me to reformat my computer as I could not start Windows because of it. It can't get much worse than that without causing physical damage to your hardware (and I've heard rumours about that too).