/facepalm Nobody is forcing you to buy a controller you don't want. :)

What does Xinput or Dinput have to do with just simply allowing me to map whatever I have to the keyboard?

Why is there always such a struggle with these games that I have to mask and rename dummy dlls so that the games don't detect and ignore them?

Hey, so I've added a few dll's that allows me to use my Dinput device with one intended for XInput - why does the game developer care enough to program their game to reject the emulation files?

Why would somebody set a Configure ini to use a 360 game pad specifically and then turn around and encrypt that ini so that the end user can not go into it and re-customize it to their controller?

No, it's a 3 year old kickass ccontroller. Much comfortable than the 360 one. Besides I don't like the layout on the 360 one, I prefer the ps3's.

How so? It limits you to the specific number of buttons and axes that the 360 controller has. What if you have more?

I 've tested over two hundred games on this PC - a lot of them were designed with XInput and my Logitech works fine with them after mapping my Logitech to the keyboard.

So rather new uber tech like XInput which owns all exists and I do not have - it matters not as along as I'm allowed to map.

Are you sure you've configured your mapper right? It sounds a lot like you've hooked it into the splash screen process instead of the game. This seems obvious and if you've already tried it I apologise, but have you tried getting the task manager up while the game is running and finding out what process the game is actually running in? I realise you've already solved this by cracking the game, which is great, I just think this might be an explanation for the problem you were having.

........that's a pretty ace idea for helping to locate the executable that Steam went and hid. I can't imagine all the Soccer Moms out there thinking like this however so the mainstream PC user will still be herded along like cattle.

I didn't necessarily mean "put a gun to my head and told me to buy it"-force, just that I bought Darksiders, tried to play it using my then-current controller (which was DInput) and it didnt work, the game was unplayable with K+M to me, and I figured most - if not all - games in the future that are better played with controllers are going to be unplayable and as a result I felt like I was "forced" to buy a new controller - mainly one with XInput. So I went out to find one that wasn't a 360 controller.

Those ones by Logitech are as far as I'm concerned, better than both Sony and Microsofts efforts in every way, especially in the one thing most people often bitch about - the DPad. I can play fighting games like SF4 (I never played in arcades so I don't really like arcade sticks, incase your wondering :P) and pull off 99/100 hadokens and the only reason I'd screw up that 1 time would be because of user error and not a shitty pad. And the thing works on both consoles, so I get an additional laugh when Stick users see their "stick advantage" disappear when I use this on console :D

I'm picking this up soon - it's just a shame that the new incarnation of Logitech has to pretend to be Microsoft when there was absolutely nothing wrong with the older model Dual Stick - As long as keyboard mapping was not derailed by the game itself.

ie; Darksiders instantly ignoring keyboard all together if a controller is plugged in.

"Ohz dids youz not already have an uber 360 plugged in??? Better run out and buy one!1"

The Keyboard works fine if a controller is already in, but all the gameplay control commands are blocked off and the mouse wont move the camera during gameplay, its usable in menues though. Everything like your Alt-Tab, Esc, all your Steam commands etc work fine.

please explain how the hell your supposed to play the game with no camera controls?

I just purchased Dungeon Defenders yesterday which used the same splash screen gimmick but they didn't make it so difficult as to locate the root executable so that my Logitech was still mapped after the splash.

This isn't getting into having to use dummy dlls so that DD would recognize SSE. *rolls eyes*

This is all pretty much demonstration as to why most people just run out and purchase a Wii. XD
Is there an accessible and editable cfg or ini file?

Sometimes 360 emulation software works - not referring to XPadder but rather the free one that requires replacing dlls.

I meant if your using a controller, K+M gameplay controls is blocked off in the game. The cam is controlled fine with the right stick. As for the games K+M controls - all I can say is that I hate them, I just couldn't get to grips and get comfortable with them and I didn't get past the first fight using them. So I never played the game until my new controller arrived.

heh, yeah me too .... only I didn't wait for a new controller: I uninstalled and sent THQ a nasty letter.

Had a quick look and so far I never found one, the KB commands can be fully edited though (when a controller isn't plugged in on startup) but I don't think the controller ones can, I'm not sure, I didn't bother to check, didn't feel the need to change the controls.

lol, always wondered if companies actually read all that mail.