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General discussion (archive)Pirate Pay - am I starting a bad thread?(36 posts)(36 posts)
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Posted May 16, 2012
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SimonG: The only way to battle piracy is the way GOG did. Give a better service. It is telling that pirates are usually the ones that have the least problems with DVDs and games.
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Paingiver: Yes it is that easy. Give better service. Bye bye piracy. End of line.
You're confusing necessity with sufficiency. SimonG asserted that it was necessary to provide a better service than pirates, not that it was sufficient to do so.
Posted May 16, 2012
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Elmofongo: I was scared because I was thinking about to bring up a thread relating about the pirate bay for a while now so can I say this:

is the only way to get Diablo 1 now is to pirated it
The only way to get abandonware is piracy. Hence the term abandonware. It is mental that even a game like Diablo 1 can become abandonware....
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SimonG: The only way to battle piracy is the way GOG did. Give a better service. It is telling that pirates are usually the ones that have the least problems with DVDs and games.
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Paingiver: Yes it is that easy. Give better service. Bye bye piracy. End of line.
If you want to see a successful anti piracy campaign, look now further than Steams expansion into the russian market. Steam is making millions of a market that many publishers nearly abandoned because piracy is rampant there. And it wasn't the laughably easy to bypass DRM part of Steam that got people using it.
Post edited May 16, 2012 by SimonG
Posted May 17, 2012
Whatever. Even if successful, sneakernet will probably make a comeback.

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SimonG: For everybodybeing afriad of privacy in the net should use a swedish VPN. Sweden has decent privacy laws, it isn't expensive and I can buy games indexed in Germany ;-). Only the swedish military intelligence can check those connections, and I think they have better things to do then to look at my internet traffic.
Well sure, they have better things to do. Our DHS doesn't it seems.
Posted May 18, 2012
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Elmofongo: I was scared because I was thinking about to bring up a thread relating about the pirate bay for a while now so can I say this:

is the only way to get Diablo 1 now is to pirated it
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SimonG: The only way to get abandonware is piracy. Hence the term abandonware. It is mental that even a game like Diablo 1 can become abandonware....
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Paingiver: Yes it is that easy. Give better service. Bye bye piracy. End of line.
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SimonG: If you want to see a successful anti piracy campaign, look now further than Steams expansion into the russian market. Steam is making millions of a market that many publishers nearly abandoned because piracy is rampant there. And it wasn't the laughably easy to bypass DRM part of Steam that got people using it.
Yet, Steam DRM usually get circumvented within 48h of game release, with EN subtitles/audio...it's usually 24h for RU ones, if you know where to look for it.
Posted May 18, 2012
One day, in the not so distant future - People will no longer torrent movies and music but will instead be dishing out lawsuits for an endless sea of subliminal programming and Mind Crime.

I'm personally subjected to enough propositional material on a daily basis without having to steal it.
Posted May 18, 2012
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carnival73: One day, in the not so distant future - People will no longer torrent movies and music but will instead be dishing out lawsuits for an endless sea of subliminal programming and Mind Crime.

I'm personally subjected to enough propositional material on a daily basis without having to steal it.
Makes sense. :)

Also not sure was it said already but, even though industry is screaming all the time, they don't really lose revenues. People that pirate games/music/movies/TV shows/whatever most probably wouldn't buy it anyway. If I want to see new movie, I'll go to the cinema - not download CAM from torrent. If I think movie is not good enough on the other hand...
Same goes for poorer people/countries. There is no way average person in 3rd world country can pay 60E for AAA game.
Posted May 18, 2012
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carnival73: One day, in the not so distant future - People will no longer torrent movies and music but will instead be dishing out lawsuits for an endless sea of subliminal programming and Mind Crime.

I'm personally subjected to enough propositional material on a daily basis without having to steal it.
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IronStar: Makes sense. :)

Also not sure was it said already but, even though industry is screaming all the time, they don't really lose revenues. People that pirate games/music/movies/TV shows/whatever most probably wouldn't buy it anyway. If I want to see new movie, I'll go to the cinema - not download CAM from torrent. If I think movie is not good enough on the other hand...
Same goes for poorer people/countries. There is no way average person in 3rd world country can pay 60E for AAA game.
Movie piracy is a bit different than game or music piracy as 'Word of mouth' spoils the film.

When it comes to music and games however, the best salesmen are those kids that pirated and tried the games out.

I'm pretty sure old organizations like 'Hybrid' were the developers, themselves, promoting their games in a way to get the word around yet make sure that not entirely everyone had access to a free copy.
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