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For DRMfree gaming its Consoles, Specifically the PS3 since there is no pay to play requirement like on Xbox, next would be Wii or WiiU again no Pay to Play like Xbox and after that PC and finally Xbox...

Speaking from a strick DRM standpoint PS3 wins hands down every time.

All i care about is DRM i dont care about graphics or controllers or whatever...
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Starkrun: For DRMfree gaming its Consoles, Specifically the PS3 since there is no pay to play requirement like on Xbox, next would be Wii or WiiU again no Pay to Play like Xbox and after that PC and finally Xbox...

Speaking from a strick DRM standpoint PS3 wins hands down every time.

All i care about is DRM i dont care about graphics or controllers or whatever...
I think all consoles beat Steam's stupid DRM, except maybe the old Wii Store, dunno if they've improved that, if so, it's probably better too (downloads use to be tied to device on Wii Store, which made you lose your shit if your console crapped out - we all knew even Nintendo couldn't get away with that forever, so it's probably changed).

All consoles do the "I don't give a fuck if I'm online or not" thing pretty well. XBL Indie is an exception, but I believe that's to skirt the ESRB requirements for indie titles (and most folks don't actually buy indie channel titles to the degree they do other channels).
I'm not sure how anyone can say consoles are better than PC.
I have a 360 and Wii and use them quite a bit so they are by no means bad or pointless, but I can't think of any thing they are better at.
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Toast_burner: I'm not sure how anyone can say consoles are better than PC.
I have a 360 and Wii and use them quite a bit so they are by no means bad or pointless, but I can't think of any thing they are better at.
Couch co-op...

Ease of use, especially the first time you try to play a title (there's been exceptions, though, luckily they remain exceptions)...

Game swapping with friends (remember those days?)...

I could go on, it's not very hard to think about why you play them when you do.
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Toast_burner: I'm not sure how anyone can say consoles are better than PC.
I have a 360 and Wii and use them quite a bit so they are by no means bad or pointless, but I can't think of any thing they are better at.
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orcishgamer: Couch co-op...

Ease of use, especially the first time you try to play a title (there's been exceptions, though, luckily they remain exceptions)...

Game swapping with friends (remember those days?)...

I could go on, it's not very hard to think about why you play them when you do.
Too bad good co-op games are incredibly uncommon these days.

I wasn't asking why people play consoles, I was asking why they think it's better than a PC
Post edited October 28, 2012 by Toast_burner
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orcishgamer: Couch co-op...

Ease of use, especially the first time you try to play a title (there's been exceptions, though, luckily they remain exceptions)...

Game swapping with friends (remember those days?)...

I could go on, it's not very hard to think about why you play them when you do.
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Toast_burner: Too bad good co-op games are incredibly uncommon these days.

I wasn't asking why people play consoles, I was asking why they think it's better than a PC
They're better at all those things, that's why I picked them. I have a ton of couch co-op games on my XBox 360, of course I buy a lot of XBLA titles, but it's not all that infrequent for a good couch co-op retail disc title to show up as well (Borderlands 2, for example).

Unless you think PC is better at game trading or couch co-op...
Post edited October 28, 2012 by orcishgamer
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Damuna: I know there are highly specialised gaming keyboards, but it seems like building upon something which at its most basic isn't fit for purpose.
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orcishgamer: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks keyboards are inherently bad as a gaming device. I swear I really don't know if people are conflating "good" with "less shitty" or not. It's lonely here.
Keyboards are the worst form of gaming input devices, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
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mondo84: PC gaming flew past console gaming sometime in the late 90s/early 2000s. The gap has just widened since then.

I'm talking about quality, not popularity.
That's weird, because I haven't seen any PC games that have ever really impressed me in that period that weren't also on console and, I barely noticed the resolution difference. I tend to stay with very old PCs though (mainly because I only use older PC games that I loved way back when), but going to friend's houses to see whatever they were playing didn't look noticeably better than what I get on my PS3, nor did the random PC gaming things I saw 8 years ago look very much better than what was on the first Xbox. The higher memory would make for better strategy games, so the Total War series was impressive as that sort of game just doesn't happen on consoles, but that's about all I can think of.
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orcishgamer: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks keyboards are inherently bad as a gaming device. I swear I really don't know if people are conflating "good" with "less shitty" or not. It's lonely here.
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Snickersnack: Keyboards are the worst form of gaming input devices, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
I see what you did there.

Amusing as it sounds, no, it's still not true. This is why Steelseries modified keyboards and other devices are so commonly sold. It's also why many competitive gamers use pretty fancy input devices.
It's the dead horse that people just keep on beating.

It's the song that never ever in any way, shape, or form ends.

Come one come all it's the most useless and most idiotic debate of the century: PC vs Consoles! Take your bets on who comes out the winner.

I'll give you a hint: It's neither side.

People will go for what they like and what fits them best. It's as simple as that.
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RayRay13000: People will go for what they like and what fits them best. It's as simple as that.
Please don't talk sense, it just confuses people and makes them violent.
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orcishgamer: "You can build a decent gaming PC that will last 5 years for about the price of a retail console" - Retail consoles cost 200-300 bucks, no fucking way
I did. The computer that I'm currently using was purchased at the start of this console generation, and it cost a little bit more than a 360 did on launch, but far less than a PS3 did.

"Even after those 5 years all you need is a graphics card upgrade" - Bullshit, the cases where you can actually do this are so miniscule they're not worth counting, said graphics card upgrade may still run you 150 bucks even if you can do it.
Yea, this one was untrue. I can't even use one of the latest generation of graphics cards in this computer, due to its old pci-e 1 port (which should in theory work with later pci-e cards, but in reality does not)

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orcishgamer: "Voice chat is free on PC" - No it is fucking not, you god damned leach, someone else is paying for your Ventrilo server or footing the bill to host one. Just because you foist the cost of your shit off onto other people does not make it "free".
If you host it yourself, it is free, and it takes hardly any system resources. Sure, you need to set it up each time you start it, but that is a minor issue. And this is what the people I play games with do.

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orcishgamer: "Competitive gaming is only on PC" - I'm pretty sure that million dollar BF3 tournament was a console tourney. It lives in both worlds.
It is rare to see competitive gaming on consoles, outside of fighting games, that are not directly sponsored by either the company that made the game, or its publisher. Yes, you can find exceptions, but for the most part, you don't see a whole lot of competitive console tournaments.

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orcishgamer: "Shitty ass description of Aim assist" - almost no console title has ever done aim assist as he described and it hasn't worked like most PC only players believe for at least half a decade.
The corosshair is not draw to the enemy, that is true, but the bullets are. And this is something that really drives me nuts when playing poor ports, where they have not removed auto-aim (AvP, I'm looking at you, you were unplayable to me due to your auto-aim). And this does make precision aiming a pain. There is a reason why most people who played multiplayer Quake 1 learnt the command sv_aim 0 (Quake 1 had a horrible auto-aim, but you could at least turn it off)
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scampywiak: PC is the better platform, those are the facts. Elitism has nothing to do with it.
So, are you getting paid by ATI, NVIDIA , Asus, steelseries, etc to make their holy crusade?
Tell me how much do you earn to preach about their products?

Hadnt it been for console gaming im pretty sure pc games hadnt been the same today.
Annyway, pc or consoles boils downs to two things for me, usufullness or entertaintment.
I can use my pc for a lot of tasks and entertaintment thats why i have one.
I can use my consoles for entertaintment thats why i have those.

It has nothing to do whos superior, im simply buying either for entertaintment or usfulness
and i sure are not sponsored by any manufacturer or brand.
Post edited October 29, 2012 by Lodium
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RayRay13000: People will go for what they like and what fits them best. It's as simple as that.
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Damuna: Also, bisexuality is real.

Just sayin'.
WHAAAT!?!?!
I think what can be said for certain is that PC gamers have the bigger elitism issues. Probably because most console gamers also have a PC but not every PC gamer has a console. A lot of compensations going on.

Disclaimer: Never owned a console since the Mega Drive.