Posted May 23, 2012

iuliand
TitanQuest onGOG
Registered: Jan 2009
From Romania

CBeckett
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From Other
Posted May 23, 2012

Elenarie
@tweetelenarie
Registered: Sep 2008
From Sweden

Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted May 23, 2012
They keep transaction history somewhere, including the four last digits of your cc (if you paid by card).
They do not keep full card data that would allow for one-click purchases (unlike, say, Amazon).
If your GOG account is hacked, the hacker won't be able to even buy you some more GOG games for the lulz using your funds, not to mention steal card data and buy something for himself.
If all of GOG is hacked (worst case scenario), you'll see some service interruption as a user and possibly users' real names would leak (along with account emails and paypal emails). E.g. if the data shows that the majority of games on my account were purchased by someone named Emma Walters (sneaked a Resonance reference, ha!), that is likely to be my (or my mom's) name. But, again, no data that could be used to make an unauthorized payment using your money.
Note that you don't need to provide address etc when paying by card, but Paypal does require the address. Paypal has its own transaction history, which I bet is more detailed and juicy. I am not aware if it provides the expanded data to sellers.
They do not keep full card data that would allow for one-click purchases (unlike, say, Amazon).
If your GOG account is hacked, the hacker won't be able to even buy you some more GOG games for the lulz using your funds, not to mention steal card data and buy something for himself.
If all of GOG is hacked (worst case scenario), you'll see some service interruption as a user and possibly users' real names would leak (along with account emails and paypal emails). E.g. if the data shows that the majority of games on my account were purchased by someone named Emma Walters (sneaked a Resonance reference, ha!), that is likely to be my (or my mom's) name. But, again, no data that could be used to make an unauthorized payment using your money.
Note that you don't need to provide address etc when paying by card, but Paypal does require the address. Paypal has its own transaction history, which I bet is more detailed and juicy. I am not aware if it provides the expanded data to sellers.

bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted May 23, 2012

It's part of the reason why adding GoldSrc keys to Steam unlocks near all of the GoldSrc games, as they haven't a clue which specific game it was actually for.

Barefoot_Monkey
invertEd
Registered: Sep 2008
From South Africa
Posted May 23, 2012
They pass payment information to the appropriate financial institution in order to receive payments. They don't keep a copy of the information that they pass along, but still have access to financial records when the need arises. I don't know how much of your credit card info is visible from the records the back gives you but it's probably enough to match a name and 4 digits.
Post edited May 23, 2012 by Barefoot_Monkey

Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted May 23, 2012
1. Take a credit card (preferably yours).
2. Go to a brick-and-mortar store, preferably one where you sign slips instead of typing your PIN.
3. Buy something.
4. Pay with a card.
5. Read the slip. That's the info GOG receives when you buy a game.
6. Sign the slip and hand it back to the cashier like you're supposed to do.
GOG is not a payment provider. They are a store. They do not ever obtain knowledge of your CC numbers. GOG's payment provider (the acquiring bank) does, of course, because they need the info to actually bill you. Then they send GOG an e-slip.
Some stores do indeed keep card data, even in employee-readable form. A cashier in a physical store can memorize your card number, and if you hand your card to a waiter in a restaurant, they have all the time in the world to help themselves to your money. GOG's payment system is the safest that can exist:
GOG > Amazon/Paypal > plaintext > physical store > restaurant
2. Go to a brick-and-mortar store, preferably one where you sign slips instead of typing your PIN.
3. Buy something.
4. Pay with a card.
5. Read the slip. That's the info GOG receives when you buy a game.
6. Sign the slip and hand it back to the cashier like you're supposed to do.
GOG is not a payment provider. They are a store. They do not ever obtain knowledge of your CC numbers. GOG's payment provider (the acquiring bank) does, of course, because they need the info to actually bill you. Then they send GOG an e-slip.
Some stores do indeed keep card data, even in employee-readable form. A cashier in a physical store can memorize your card number, and if you hand your card to a waiter in a restaurant, they have all the time in the world to help themselves to your money. GOG's payment system is the safest that can exist:
GOG > Amazon/Paypal > plaintext > physical store > restaurant

macuahuitlgog
Blood is the #1 FPS.
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted May 23, 2012

2. Go to a brick-and-mortar store, preferably one where you sign slips instead of typing your PIN.
3. Buy something.
4. Pay with a card.
5. Read the slip. That's the info GOG receives when you buy a game.
6. Sign the slip and hand it back to the cashier like you're supposed to do.
GOG is not a payment provider. They are a store. They do not ever obtain knowledge of your CC numbers. GOG's payment provider (the acquiring bank) does, of course, because they need the info to actually bill you. Then they send GOG an e-slip.
Some stores do indeed keep card data, even in employee-readable form. A cashier in a physical store can memorize your card number, and if you hand your card to a waiter in a restaurant, they have all the time in the world to help themselves to your money. GOG's payment system is the safest that can exist:
GOG > Amazon/Paypal > plaintext > physical store > restaurant

hedwards
buy Evil Genius
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted May 23, 2012

You're not being lied.
Sames goes for MAC addresses and SSNs as well if you're interested. Those right most digits are disproportionately more valuable than the left most ones as those are easier to guess if need be.
That being said, it would still take more information and randomly guessing at it would lead to the account being frozen before one is likely to succeed in brute forcing it.

liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
Registered: Dec 2009
From India
Posted May 23, 2012
i just changed my mail address back & forth using the in client option- change email address
it took about 20 mins......
it took about 20 mins......

Sogi-Ya
<- OLD.
Registered: Jul 2009
From United States
Posted May 24, 2012
it's not about the issue of changing emails, it's about the support you get when something goes wrong while changing emails.

iuliand
TitanQuest onGOG
Registered: Jan 2009
From Romania
Posted May 24, 2012
I was mislead by your wording. To be more clear you should have said digits instead of numbers as I was thinking about the last four complete cc numbers used.
Thank you all for the clarifications and sorry for derailing from the main scope of this topic. Though, at least for me, it was informative.
Thank you all for the clarifications and sorry for derailing from the main scope of this topic. Though, at least for me, it was informative.