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garrus74: 2) Chicago, IL: during the American Economic Association conference (basically a job market fair for young economics professors + a conference), the Occupy movement held a protest near the headquarters, holding up the banners "Stop teaching the rich how to get richer!". While what econ subjects do in high school and college (hopefully) is to teach an average joe about not making stupid financial decisions in their life (like taking out a half-a-mil mortgage with the salary of less than $100K a year)
I would assume that the location of the conference had something to do with that particular protest. The economics department at the University of Chicago is not a school for the average Joe, it's one of the most influential centers of economic thought in the world. The Chicago school of economics with its advocacy of unfettered free markets and economic liberalism has contributed significantly to the recent financial crisis and the increasing income inequality. It's hardly surprising that the Occupy movement would take their protests there.
I wonder if one of the major cable news "round-table" shows will bring in commentary from Riot veterans King and Denny, kinda like old boxers commentate on matches. Reggie would probably be about as coherent as one, too.
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QC: That's okay, their kneejerk reaction would be to tell you there aren't any jobs. And really, there aren't, if it takes an associates degree or bachalor's degree to get the competetive job of fast food cashier. That's not a joke, the few jobs that are open are entry-level jobs, and a college degree of some kind is the only way to put yourself ahead of most applicants. And if students in math, science, engineering, stuff like that, have no choice but to get into fast food careers or serve as waiters, then no, the jobs aren't there. And they should have been.
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HereForTheBeer: As an aside, up here in Wisconsin there was a story a few weeks back about how statewide there are something like 20,000 unfilled technical jobs in manufacturing - things like CNC operators, welders, and machinists, and many of them were starting at $40k or so.

The problem, the story went on to say, was that college has been sold as the best, sometimes even the only, way to reach that middle class dream. The emphasis, then, in primary education has been college prep while all-but-ignoring the technical fields that also pay quite well but don't have that college cachet. The funny thing is that these technical degrees are usually much cheaper, take a lot less time, prepare the students for actual work right away, and put them in fields where they're able to pay off whatever student loan debt might have accrued and be well on their way to making a solid life for themselves.

Meanwhile, in my segment of manufacturing, quite a number of the shop owners are those without a "normal" college degree but with manufacturing skills earned through OJT, hard work, and maybe some formal technical education.
There still union work, a union electrician can make over $30 an hour. They pay for training and everything.
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garrus74: 2) Chicago, IL: during the American Economic Association conference (basically a job market fair for young economics professors + a conference), the Occupy movement held a protest near the headquarters, holding up the banners "Stop teaching the rich how to get richer!". While what econ subjects do in high school and college (hopefully) is to teach an average joe about not making stupid financial decisions in their life (like taking out a half-a-mil mortgage with the salary of less than $100K a year)
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spindown: I would assume that the location of the conference had something to do with that particular protest. The economics department at the University of Chicago is not a school for the average Joe, it's one of the most influential centers of economic thought in the world. The Chicago school of economics with its advocacy of unfettered free markets and economic liberalism has contributed significantly to the recent financial crisis and the increasing income inequality. It's hardly surprising that the Occupy movement would take their protests there.
I agree with you that u Chicago Econ has a certain reputation within the profession (and they all walk randomly, if you know the joke :)). However, the AEA meetings usually attract every half-decent econ department in the world, and I had a feeling the protest was directed more at the profession in general. They'd probably "occupy" it even if it were in Atlanta or Boston or wherever. In the meantime, lots of state schools have strong econ departments, e.g., in the UC, UNC, UMass systems etc., and they're not teaching just the rich (in fact, ironically, the rich kids tend to get lower quality undergrad econ education, say at Harvard and Chicago, for instance, as those schools are too focused on research and publishing, so the undergrad lectures are usually taught by grad students following books written by the big shots in the department, or adjunct faculty of lower caliber)
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garrus74: 2) Chicago, IL: during the American Economic Association conference (basically a job market fair for young economics professors + a conference), the Occupy movement held a protest near the headquarters, holding up the banners "Stop teaching the rich how to get richer!". While what econ subjects do in high school and college (hopefully) is to teach an average joe about not making stupid financial decisions in their life (like taking out a half-a-mil mortgage with the salary of less than $100K a year)
Uh huh, and after that single class for one semester of high school about financial responsibility nearly everyone of those kids will be pushed by their counselors and other school staff to take on crushing debt to "further their education." Sure, the kids have no reason to feel betrayed, they were "totally warned".

Also, it's bullshit to only blame the government and not business. It's like only blaming the dude your hot girlfriend cheated on you with. Duh, your girlfriend did half the cheating!