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Paradoks: Looks like I stepped on someone's toe here, but I definitely won't be apologizing for my sense of morality. Hate me all you want, I won't respond by doing the same.
You're morality is interfering with everyone having equal rights...
I hope you realise that...
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Paradoks: Looks like I stepped on someone's toe here, but I definitely won't be apologizing for my sense of morality. Hate me all you want, I won't respond by doing the same.
You realize your morality involves dictating how other people live their lives, correct? You're advocating forcing people into a sort of bondage.
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Paradoks: Looks like I stepped on someone's toe here, but I definitely won't be apologizing for my sense of morality. Hate me all you want, I won't respond by doing the same.
Sexual intolerance has nothing to do with morality. I don't hate you, I just think you are deeply misguided.
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HereForTheBeer: As StingingVelvet mentioned, civil unions and marriage oughta be separate, with the unions being a legal covenant between men (okay, people.
Yes to this, please, we need to separate legal and governmental obligations and benefits from some religious ceremony.

To all the people who are going to finally get married out there in NY, I have but one thing to say: "IT'S A TRAP!!!"
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orcishgamer: Yes to this, please, we need to separate legal and governmental obligations and benefits from some religious ceremony.
Currently, it muddies the issue. I've talked with some religious folks who disapprove of gay marriage not because they don't want gay folks to join together, but because they consider marriage to be a religious, umm, rite, I guess. But they're fine with a civil union that puts them in the same boat as hetero couples with respect to legalities.

Sounds sensible to me.

I think by a strict definition of marriage in more than one religion, my own marriage is actually something other than marriage since I lay claim to atheism. No skin off my nose since it doesn't mean the two of us love each other any less, and we still have the same legal obligations and privileges as, say, a Protestant couple. Unless the Protestants are a couple of gays, in which case atheism apparently trumps homosexuality. XD
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Paradoks: Looks like I stepped on someone's toe here, but I definitely won't be apologizing for my sense of morality. Hate me all you want, I won't respond by doing the same.
Ah, good old self-martyrdom; great for when you lose a debate but want to make you feel like you won. No one hates you, and you don't have more or better morals than anyone else :3. We just disagree <3

It must be sad holding on to traditional morals in a world that has begun to move past them and shows no signs of ever stopping ;_;
Post edited June 28, 2011 by MaxwellKraft
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HereForTheBeer: I think by a strict definition of marriage in more than one religion, my own marriage is actually something other than marriage since I lay claim to atheism. No skin off my nose since it doesn't mean the two of us love each other any less, and we still have the same legal obligations and privileges as, say, a Protestant couple. Unless the Protestants are a couple of gays, in which case atheism apparently trumps homosexuality. XD
Haha, I might save that one for later, very well put.