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This is swell and all, but I'm still wondering how this makes them tone deaf...

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Delixe: How many times do we have to say it? Democracy doesn't work.
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StingingVelvet: And yet there is no better alternative.

Now I'm sad... thanks.
I doubt you've tried anarchy. It's got a bad reputation, but when you have no law against killing rich and "important" people, it can't be all bad.

...barring that, I could be absolute ruler for life. It's the only form of government that could work. The only real flaw is that after my death, the world would be run by the dregs of society again. Of course, with an emphasis on scientific advancement founded upon an utter disregard for any form of morality or human rights, even that may not be a problem. >:D
Post edited March 21, 2011 by LordKuruku
Oh my... they just don't learn, do they?
Doesn't surprise me at all, it's a logical step after the last decade.
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hedwards: OpenGL is a much older standard
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Batou456: OpenGL 4.1, aka current, is a year newer then DirectX 11. There's been a lag in implementation due to patent trolling issues, but that doesn't makes it a "older standard."

There's room for criticisms regarding it's approach and the Microsoft approach, but not continuing development isn't one of them.
OpenGL has been in continuous development since the 80s, whereas MS developed DirectX in the mid 90s, and muscled its way in with OS market share.

So yes, I am correct in pointing out that it's an older standard.

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hedwards: and if you choose to go with DirectX you're basically stuck on Windows without a major porting effort.
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Batou456: XBox which might as well be just written as DirectXBox, as that is what the name is taken from, and pressure of publishers on devs for multiplatform are not some minor thing you can ignore here.

I could note I saw an article with the opposite bias from Tom's Hardware here where Developers were raging against being forced by the Publishers to constrain themselves to DirectX versus getting more direct access to the hardware and how they felt it was limiting them and making things look the same. Ergo they wanted the API to get out of their way with prepared feature packages and get into the guts of thing, which is more OpenXL's (to steal the convention) territory then DirectX's, if accurate.

This is all the more polarized by the Tom's Hardware article's obsession with prepared feature packages to the point actual API related functionality may as well not exist in their worldview.
Yes, because clearly the PS3, Wii, Linux and Mac don't exist. Of course the XBox is going to use DirectX it's the only way that MS can maximize the advantage it has over the competition.

Perhaps I should have indicated MS only which would have been more accurate, but it's still the correct point of view. MS abusing its market position in the OS world to make it inconvenient for others to compete. It was settled a long time ago that MS doesn't know how to actually compete for market share, just look at browsers, consoles, mp3 players and portable phones if you don't believe me.
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hedwards: The more important question is why MS was allowed to use it's monopoly position to bring in DirectX when for a significant period of time at the beginning of the 3D accelerator revolution DirectX just wasn't very good compared to the alternatives.
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KavazovAngel: You guys really need to cut the crap with this "allowed" stuff. Windows is their product, they can put whatever they want on it. ;)

Also, be a man! And use DirectX for Windows, and OpenGL for Mac, like what Blizzard does. :p

It will be best if Microsoft becomes a big player in selling games. Competition brings better quality services. Also, being able to download my games using just my Windows Live account would be awesome. :p
Quick, my irony sense is tingling. Perhaps while we're at it, we should allow AT&T to buy out T-Mobile, Verizon and Sprint, all for the make betterment of our glorious American state.
Post edited March 21, 2011 by hedwards
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LordKuruku: I doubt you've tried anarchy. It's got a bad reputation, but when you have no law against killing rich and "important" people, it can't be all bad.
I'm too lazy to be an effective anarchist. Some active and healthy guy would just steal all my stuff.
" Quick, my irony sense is tingling. Perhaps while we're at it, we should allow AT&T to buy out T-Mobile, Verizon and Sprint, all for the make betterment of our glorious American state."

Funny you should say that......
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704433904576212810008230654.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

EDIT: Agh epic quote fail
EDIT2: Okay, you know what? Just ignore this post. Epic fail X_X.
Post edited March 21, 2011 by Gamerlord
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hedwards:
Whatever mate, every sane person knows that politics are being involved here, that's why Microsoft are being kept from expanding even further.
So it is no longer GFWL. If they are going to rename it I think they should call the new service GTFO.
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Sargon: So it is no longer GFWL. If they are going to rename it I think they should call the new service GTFO.
Game and Talk Facebook\Farmville Online? It wouldn't be much worse than the choice of acronym. :P
Microsoft, tone deaf you say? Impossible, surely you've just forgotten the winner of the Bing jingle competition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9DBynJUCS4
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Sargon: So it is no longer GFWL. If they are going to rename it I think they should call the new service GTFO.
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LordKuruku: Game and Talk Facebook\Farmville Online? It wouldn't be much worse than the choice of acronym. :P
Either that or Generally Tarnished; Frequently Offensive
Why are they even making this? They should just scrap the idea all together and put all their manpower into making better OSs and consoles.
I don't get it why people are so surprised.
They clearly lost the race for digital distribution, mainly against Steam. So now they reorient themselves from the "normal" gamer, to the Farmvile "gamer" and making it more of a social thing, while of course keeping some "normal" game distribution (at least that's what I got from the video).

This is not something for most of the people in this topic, or on this forum for that matter. It's for a different type of gamer so I don't see why the surprise or the disappointment. I couldn't care less, it's not like I wanted to use their service.

I'd say it's actually a good business decision if they go that way. There are plenty of fools out there and MS will play them.
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Aningan: I'd say it's actually a good business decision if they go that way. There are plenty of fools out there and MS will play them.
Ha ha!

"You think you will play with Microsoft, but it is Microsoft that will play you!"
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Aningan: I'd say it's actually a good business decision if they go that way. There are plenty of fools out there and MS will play them.
Tbh, one is a big fool too if the thinks he's buying games from Steam... But that's a story for another day.