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StingingVelvet: most fo the time the media treats women as these poor fragile creatures that need protection, otherwise there is sexism, but the idea of them needing more protection in general is sexist.

I treat women as equals, I think they deserve equal pay, equal responsibility and an equal punch in the face when they're being arseholes

So we're supposed to think this site is racist because it is just for black people and you feel excluded? I thought it was racist because it offers working at McDonald's as a viable career option for blacks.
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Aliasalpha: Thats the kind of stereotype shit that simply doesn't enter into our minds here.

This is so true, yet they'll never understand it.... they are just looking for a escape goat from their own hypocrisy & it just happens to be Australia's turn to cop it.
With that said, its not quite racism that is the real problem, its the overeaction of the media proclaiming racism or by being racist itself that gets the mass incited...
e.g. Cronulla Riots - Alan Jones... or more currently the US Media's claiming 'all' Australian's as racist
These fuckwhit reporters are just doing it to get on the front page.
Australia isn't a racist country, we dont have the kkk, holocaust, slavery or any other national policy that discrimates based on colour, race or sex, but that doesn't meant that we dont have people here like that, after all we are a extremely multicultural country that has all types of people here so we're bound to get some idiots here & there.
And so i'll leave you all with this:
http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2005/12/16/and-yes-australia-is-racist/
Interesting blog read regarding racism from someone who isn't Australian but has actually lived here unlike those dickweeds elsewhere who really dont have a fucking clue, but just want to get their names on the front page.
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StingingVelvet: The media loves to label everything... racism here, sexism there, and it's all based on surface level thinking, nothing substantial or proven. It's pretty sad.

Well, no one said that what 'the media' broadcasts was mainly made for sensible people, by sensible people. Same thing (though in a lesser degree) for politics, actually. The realization that the majority of those running our country probably have less common sense than I do was kind of an eye opener.
And yeah, the site is annoying, just like feminists are annoying. It's so old fashioned. Countermeasures like positive discrimination are important when negative discrimination is a problem. However, the positive discrimination tends to be assimilated in the social awareness as a 'good thing' and as such lives on long past the negative discrimination.At least in my social environment most positive discrimination is seen as unnecessairy and hurtful for those it's supposed to help: it assumes your life is difficult because you are treated differently and thereby also assumes that naturally, you are treated differently because of some quality.
Now, of course I live a sheltered life in a little world where everyone is judged as a person instead of as a member of a group.
Well sure, we have something like that here too. Really, we could never have done more to completely ruin the society of gypsys than to keep protecting them. I think basically all that would be needed for them to integrate into society again would be a few well deserved slaps (they have kinda grown to abuse the system that's protecting them on all fronts - they are literally acting like spoiled children).
But no, even calling them 'gypsy' is an offence nowadays, they've had to think of a new name for them. But, of course, no one will be ever doing anything with that. They will still gladly give them money, so they can live, 'because they can't find a job,' they will still keep giving them apartments for free - and I would give my left leg to have one of those, and ... so on.
The saddest part really is that it's not only taking definition of 'racism' and completely changing its meaning, it's also ruining of an old culture.
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Fenixp: they are literally acting like spoiled children

I was going to say "nothing new there, in other words", but then I thought I'd better not...
Edit: Though IMO it's not racism to criticize someone's culture (or religion, for that matter).
Post edited January 14, 2010 by Zeewolf
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Aliasalpha: Isn't affirmitive action just positive racism?
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Sielle: Positive? Depends on which side you're on. It's nothing more than socially accepted racism.

Exactly. Only it's not as accepted here at least.
Modern day racism is largely invisible to most white people because we don't see our own privilege. Each generation back in our family history benefited from racism more heavily than we do now, but because we were raised from that lineage, many of us still receive residual benefits. This may simply be because your family had more money and more education when they raised you. This may be because there are white business leaders that all-things-being-equal, just feel more comfortable hiring a white man. Our peers are often other people with these same advantages and our peers help us out. We may not be full of obvious bigotry and hate, we may even attempt to treat all equally, but we benefit from our cultural position whether we are aware of it or not. Racism is woven into the fabric of American society and most of us white people don't see it, but it's real obvious to those that don't have the same hidden benefits.
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anjohl: Buttom line is, culture and religion are private, and a host country is just that, your HOST, not your private incubator.

Bottom line is, we're all in the same boat, and all conceptions of race, nationality, culture, religion, and borders is irrelevant.
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StingingVelvet: Black man with no power not being able to be a racist, and that is the right answer on the test because he says so.

I'd love to see him say that to Obama. Saying black people have no power and can't be racist is... *drumroll* you guessed it! Racism.
On the sidenote, this is what 365blacks.com is like on WOT.com
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/365black.com
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DarrkPhoenix: although it seems that these days one is expected to engage in racism on certain occasions in order to remain PC. Pretty sorry state of affairs.

Which is why I've always said 'bollocks to political correctness'.
Didn't expect a thread full of spoiled white people moaning about being discriminated against here on gog. that's usually reserved for the Daily Mail. sigh.
the fuss about that KFC ad was stupid. People saying this website is racist are equally stupid. If people can't tell the difference then i'm a little worried.
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Navagon: Which is why I've always said 'bollocks to political correctness'.

"Political Correctness" is a term the Daily mail / Express use to attack anything they don't like. The correct term would be "respect" or "politeness". But I agree, most people say bollocks to those these days.
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anjohl: NO immigration department. ALL immigrants should be evaluated SOLELY on what they have to offer to the country they want to come to.
The immigration quota should be DIRECTLY linked to the unemployment rate, and if the rate goes below a certain point, NO immigration should be allowed under ANY circumstances barring an emergency. In addition, the opposition should be able to call a referendum at any time to close down immigration for 6 months per referendum.

Good god, I seriously hope not. But maybe that's because I've experienced things from the other side of the immigration issue, which of course most people who complain about haven't. Infact they've rarely experienced it at all..... just read inflammatory articles about it.
Anyway, who's gonna evaluate the immigrants if you shut down the department? And who's gonna bother voting EVERY 6 months?
Post edited January 14, 2010 by soulgrindr
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tb87670: If that site was made for white people and called white365.com then the NAACP would be up McDonalds ass so much McDonalds would go broke from frivolous lawsuits.

Most things are made for white people (though usually unintentionally), they just don't announce it because they assume a white majority where the whiteness of the culture isn't mentioned and white culture is just treated as regular culture. If there was a white365.com people would be right to be upset because it would not be serving an underpriviledged group-- it would be serving an already socially priviledged group. Granted, there are economically disadvantaged white people too, but there are options for them. It's harder to be economically disadvantaged and black.
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tb87670: We got a black president. They are 'proven' equals, yet still want special treatment. 85% of jail population is black people yet they only make up about 15% of the general population in America. They can call me a honkey but I can't call them a n****r. Any thoughts on this?

Just because we have a black president now you think racism is over? Then in the same breath you get upset that you can't call people nigger without getting heat for it? Come on! I'm sorry if someone called you honkey. That was rude. But you should be upset that someone was rude to you based on your race, not because you can't yell back "stfu nigger".
Post edited January 14, 2010 by jungletoad
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anjohl: Buttom line is, culture and religion are private, and a host country is just that, your HOST, not your private incubator.
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stonebro: Bottom line is, we're all in the same boat, and all conceptions of race, nationality, culture, religion, and borders is irrelevant.

It's irrelevant if we ensure it's a non-issue by treating it as a non-issue.