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But if one boot kills the other, what will you wear on the other foot?
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yazleb: If you don't fancy that, then buy a PC Netbook on the cheap for 300-600 dollars that will run everything on here.

A netbook will run MOST things here, not all. There's still the odd resolution issue that you might encounter since most older games were made for a strict 4:3 aspect ratio and so 1024x600 does confuse a few games
Shouldn't it be possible to actually run Windows on the newer Macbooks?
If so, best Windows platform ever.
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stonebro: Shouldn't it be possible to actually run Windows on the newer Macbooks?
If so, best Windows platform ever.

Yep, Windows runs pretty good on the current Intel-based Macs.
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stonebro: Shouldn't it be possible to actually run Windows on the newer Macbooks?
If so, best Windows platform ever.

The best Windows platform ever has always been and will always be a PC. If there's something you can do on a Mac, chances are it can be done better on a PC.
Hardware wise, the Mac is a PC now.
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Sielle: Hardware wise, the Mac is a PC now.

except a lot more expensive for no real reason
Post edited July 15, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Sielle: Hardware wise, the Mac is a PC now.
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Aliasalpha: except a lot more expensive for no real reason

There's a reason, you are paying for the coolness and exclusivity of being a Mac user. Think of it like a membership fee for the Cult of Jobs.
Welcome to the church of scientology, we have some lovely S3 Trio's you can game on, that'll be a thousand bucks
a month
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Aliasalpha: except a lot more expensive for no real reason
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cogadh: There's a reason, you are paying for the coolness and exclusivity of being a Mac user. Think of it like a membership fee for the Cult of Jobs.

Aw, come one guys, don't start with low arguments concerning the price of Macs...
When you buy a Mac, you buy the hardware in it (generally superior to low-price built PCs), you buy the design (well, ok, it's not so vital).
Something I always keep in mind: on Mac OSX you don't have troubles with virus, the OS is a lot more stable than any Windows... I mean if you count time consumed to fix anything on your computer as money, PCs are a lot more expensive...
Macs aren't as secure/stable as people want to think. Main thing that keeps them safe is the low number of users. It just isn't worth it to write malicious code for them.
Keep in mind the results of PWN2OWN.
With a Mac what you're really doing is overpaying for quality components (decent hardware most of the time, but not worth what Apple charges) and the styling. If looking "hip" at your local coffee shop is important than perhaps a mac is worth it.
Post edited July 15, 2009 by Sielle
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cogadh: There's a reason, you are paying for the coolness and exclusivity of being a Mac user. Think of it like a membership fee for the Cult of Jobs.
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DarthKaal: Aw, come one guys, don't start with low arguments concerning the price of Macs...
When you buy a Mac, you buy the hardware in it (generally superior to low-price built PCs), you buy the design (well, ok, it's not so vital).
Something I always keep in mind: on Mac OSX you don't have troubles with virus, the OS is a lot more stable than any Windows... I mean if you count time consumed to fix anything on your computer as money, PCs are a lot more expensive...

Actually, the hardware in current Macs is no better or worse than what you get with a current PC. If you were to compare the current mid-range Mac to a mid-range Dell, you would find comparable or identical hardware, but the Dell would be up to hundreds of dollars cheaper. Why is that?
The virus argument is really moot; the only reason Macs don't have virus issues is because almost no one (comparatively speaking) uses a Mac. They are no safer than a PC, its just that no one bothers to write virii for them (well, not as often as they do for Windows). If more people start using Macs, you can be sure that will change.
The stability argument is also moot, since Windows has not had a significant stability issue since XP was introduced (don't believe everything you see in those Mac vs. PC ads). Personally, I don't often spend any time fixing anything on my PC that I didn't intentionally do to it anyway (I tend to break things just to see if I can fix it). Besides, if Macs are so error free compared to Windows, then why does Apple need "Mac Geniuses" to explain to people how to use and maintain their Macs?
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Sielle: Macs aren't as secure/stable as people want to think. Main thing that keeps them safe is the low number of users. It just isn't worth it to write malicious code for them.

Fair point.
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Sielle: If looking "hip" at your local coffee shop is important than perhaps a mac is worth it.

Well it would be hard to take my iMac with me each time I go to the coffee... and I can't smoke anymore in so... :p
As a graphic designer, I use memory consuming apps simultaneously, like Photoshop, Illustrator, and some 3D. I work on a good PC at work, and on a good Mac at home. I can tell you that I really feel the differences.
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DarthKaal: As a graphic designer, I use memory consuming apps simultaneously, like Photoshop, Illustrator, and some 3D. I work on a good PC at work, and on a good Mac at home. I can tell you that I really feel the differences.

Now we're getting into perceptions and details. I can't say anything about your feelings on the differences, especially if I don't know the details/specs of the two systems. ;)
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Sielle: Macs aren't as secure/stable as people want to think. Main thing that keeps them safe is the low number of users. It just isn't worth it to write malicious code for them.
Keep in mind the results of PWN2OWN.

Another thing to that never gets brought up is that Apple only allows OSX to be loaded on a narrow range of hardware. I've seen XP run on some pitiful hardware. While it may run like crap, it does run. The OSX license doesn't legally allow people to load it on non-Apple hardware. It makes it easier to make sure an OS is smooth when you don't have to take all kinds of crap hardware and crap configurations into consideration.
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Sielle: With a Mac what you're really doing is overpaying for quality components (decent hardware most of the time, but not worth what Apple charges) and the styling. If looking "hip" at your local coffee shop is important than perhaps a mac is worth it.

Plus, you get to go to any PC forum of your choice and whine about the lack of software for the platform that you chose.