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I really was looking forward to the idea of a Clone Wars game. Using a somewhat cartoony color palette as well as retaining the IP of Clone Wars, I think that would make a good game if pulled off correctly as a game that isn't aimed at kids, but looks like it is.
And don't talk about that stupid new Sony Star Wars MMO that is being rumored to run on the Free Realms engine.
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bansama: Well, we all hated the prequel trilogies.
I guess that's true. I've just remembered being dragged to a midnight showing of Episode 1 and once it finished, my Star Wars loving friend was in shock. He actually dragged me to it a second time just to see if he imagined it being so poor.
I think it was that annoying Jar Jar thing that really did him in. There's no Jar Jar-whatever in KOTOR right? (Or if there is, can you at least kill it?)
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TheCheese33: Last year in my US History class, our teacher whipped out a copy of Episode II, because it's one of the only DVDs he owns, and he didn't want to teach that day.

And people wonder why the American education system is failing.
Post edited September 06, 2009 by michaelleung
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bansama: In that case, given the price tag and the fact that I'm in the mood to buy something, I might as well pick it up. (And before someone suggests purchasing something on GOG, they've already taken large sums of cash from me this week with their awesome Interplay sale =))

Focus on the repair skill and go to tattooine the first chance you get. Getting HK47 will make the game go from good to awesome
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bansama: Would KOTOR be fun for someone who doesn't really care for the Star Wars universe? Or is this a game that can only be enjoyed by those who liked the movies (to be honest, the movies, especially the last 3, don't really impress me).
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michaelleung: Well, we all hated the prequel trilogies. (If you liked it, there's something wrong with you or you're paid by George Lucas) But I think that if you're not into Star Wars lore, just play it through as a great RPG and you'll enjoy it.

I loved them. They had problems but they were still good solid movies that fit the genre I thought.
Jarjar was cutesy and annoying but then so were the ewoks and the droids.
I do think it was a mistake making anakin 9 in phantom menace, it would have felt a bit more realistic to make him an early teenager because at least it'd be relateable having him do what is basically drag racing.
The pod race was in serious need of a non-lucas editor, he has a major bias towards racing and that was evident since the DVD release EXTENDED the already far too long race
That said I think the rest was pretty damn good.
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michaelleung: I really was looking forward to the idea of a Clone Wars game. Using a somewhat cartoony color palette as well as retaining the IP of Clone Wars, I think that would make a good game if pulled off correctly as a game that isn't aimed at kids, but looks like it is.

Well the game is based on the cartoon which is basically aimed at kids. For the most part its a pretty good show but they've got too many moments of forced comedy.
I'll give the demo of the game a go when & if they release one out but I'm sort of expecting lego star wars sans lego.
Post edited September 06, 2009 by Aliasalpha
To add to Aliasalpha's advice, when you get HK-47 you get the option of attempting to repair him. This has to be done more than once to fully restore him. Restoring him has certain advantages, and at a certain point in the storyline you can no longer work on him and you lose out on what you would have gained by doing so, so repair him at the earliest opportunity as soon as your skill is sufficient (the game tells you whether you have succeeded or not, and you won't break him further by failing).
HK-47's conversation style makes him a must for any party, especially when doing quests that involve lots of talking .
Post edited September 06, 2009 by Arkose
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Arkose: HK-47's conversation style makes him a must for any party, especially when doing quests that involve lots of talking .

“Statement: But you said so yourself. You have just admitted your own weakness. You have just shown me your soft, meatbag-like underbellies, and said, "HK-47, please shoot me repeatedly there until I die."
- HK-47 in a cut content mission from KOTOR 2 :(
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Arkose: HK-47's conversation style makes him a must for any party, especially when doing quests that involve lots of talking .

Examples:
HK-47: Query: Can I kill him now, master? I'd like ever so much to break his neck. It's been a long time fantasy of mine...
Player: Maybe later...
HK-47: Did you hear that meatbag? I WILL BE BACK!
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HK-47: Explanation: Then you qualify as my master and I must refer to you as such. The legal requirements for models of my type are very specific, master.
Player: What legal requirements do you mean?
HK-47: Answer: Simply that the distinction between 'killer' and 'killee' be a clear one. I cannot kill of my own volition, naturally.
Player: I don't think 'killee' is a word.
HK-47: Expletive: Damn it, master, I am an assassination droid... not a dictionary!
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HK-47: "Query: Would you rather be caught with contraband that is 'very' illegal, or just a little illegal?"
Player: "What's the difference?"
HK-47: "About twenty years, master."
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HK-47: "Advisory: It is not possible to destroy the master. It is suggested that you run while my blaster warms up, meatbags."
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HK-47: "Commentary: The meatbag speaks without clarity. Detail your involvement or the master will splatter your organs all over the floor."
Pretty much everything else he says is just as hilarious.
I think HKs finest moment was in KOTOR 2 doing the impression of Carth & Bastilla
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Aliasalpha: I think HKs finest moment was in KOTOR 2 doing the impression of Carth & Bastilla

Statement: Oh, yes. My master had quite the collection of tortured individuals that seemed unable to confront their basic personality conflicts. Let me cite some specific examples.
[impersonates Carth Onasi] Mockery: "Oh, master, I do not trust you! I cannot trust you or anyone ever again!"
[impersonates Bastila Shan] Mockery: "Oh, master, I love you but I hate everything you stand for, but I think we should go press our slimy, mucus-covered lips together in the cargo hold!"
Conclusion: Such pheromone-driven Human responses never cease to decrease the charge in my capacitors and make me wish I could press a blaster pistol to my behavior core and pull the trigger. I am pleased that this does not seem to be the case with your current entourage.
Just downloading KOTOR from Steam now (£6.99).
I was away most of Saturday, so I'm playing catch up on the forums... :)
Post edited September 06, 2009 by Krankor
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michaelleung: Well, we all hated the prequel trilogies. (If you liked it, there's something wrong with you or you're paid by George Lucas) But I think that if you're not into Star Wars lore, just play it through as a great RPG and you'll enjoy it.
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Aliasalpha: I loved them. They had problems but they were still good solid movies that fit the genre I thought.

Here's an example of where the prequels stretched the suspension of disbelief beyond the breaking point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjNcU-K-hA
D2D's KOTOR is 4 cents cheaper than Steam. Just sayin'.
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Wishbone: Here's an example of where the prequels stretched the suspension of disbelief beyond the breaking point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjNcU-K-hA

Copyright problems, can you write it? I know them by heart so all you need is a basic mention of the scene
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Delixe: On the contrary I adore KOTOR and I have had the Best of PC version for years. I will probably pick up the Steam version eventually for convenience. The reason I said it was a dissapointment is its hardly anything earth shattering.

How would that be convenient? The Best of PC version neither requires the DVD or Steam. And I agree, it was another lacklustre announcement. If Lucasarts insist on drumming up hype for each small thing they do then they're going to find that people are rapidly losing interest in anything they have to announce.
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Wishbone: Here's an example of where the prequels stretched the suspension of disbelief beyond the breaking point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjNcU-K-hA
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Aliasalpha: Copyright problems, can you write it? I know them by heart so all you need is a basic mention of the scene

It's not from one of the prequels, it's from the first Robot Chicken Star Wars special. Basically, it's an extended recreation of the scene with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker in the central ventilation shaft of Cloud City, at the end of The Empire Strikes Back:
Darth: Turn to the dark side, and join me.
Luke: I'll never join you! You killed my father!
Darth: No, Luke. I am your father!
Luke: That's not true. That's impossible!
Darth: And Princess Leia is your sister.
Luke: That's not true. That's... Improbable.
Darth: And the Empire will be defeated by Ewoks.
Luke: That's... Very unlikely...
Darth: And as a child, I built C-3PO!
Luke: Huh?
Cut to later, Darth is now holding a cup of coffee, and Luke is smoking a cigarette.
Darth: And the force, well that's just microscopic bacteria in your blood stream, called midi-clorians.
Luke: (drops his cigarette, climbs back up on the platform and walks past Darth out of the picture) Look, if you're not gonna take this seriously, I'm out of here...
Hmm, I don't see KOTOR showing up in my list of games on the Steam Community. Everything about Steam seems broken when it comes to this game.
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michaelleung: Hmm, I don't see KOTOR showing up in my list of games on the Steam Community. Everything about Steam seems broken when it comes to this game.

It's Steam, what do you expect? ;-p