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I don't know anything about Linux, really.

My home has two desktops and two laptops running Win 7... but I have a third, older laptop... a Toshiba Satellite with an AMD Turion at 2.2 Ghz and 3 gigs of RAM. Rather than retire it, I thought I'd like to wipe it out and instal Linux.

I'm not looking to become a guru... I just want to explore Linux and play with its features and some of the Linux based productivity apps out there.

Would someone care to suggest where I should start to find something easy to install and set up?
Your best bet will probably be to start off with either Ubuntu Linux or Linux Mint.

Linux Mint is effectively the same as Ubuntu (although I believe it recently started basing its releases on another distro, Debian, upon which Ubuntu was itself based) but uses a more Windows-like interface design, has less of an interest in avoiding proprietary, closed-source software and is more...green.

That's not to say Ubuntu is any less easy to use. I've been using it for seven years now with no problems.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download

http://linuxmint.com/
Post edited March 21, 2012 by jamyskis
I would suggest Linux Mint ( I share the views of Jamyskis, but one need to be aware of the differences between the desktops. Basically, linux user tend to favour one or another of the available desktops ( and it's you to make your mind) , while Ubuntu has tries to push its users towards its own choice, Unity. The logical entry point from Win 7 would be to try a distro using gnome 2 or KDE and then to experiment other options such as Gnome 3, Unity, ... )

Mint has the advantages of Ubuntu ( readily available large application library ), with a classic desktop

Opensuse is also a reasonnable choice
There is a thread here not too long ago containing some suggestions on which distros to try:
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/a_good_free_os
I'd recommend Linux MInt, the KDE edition of it:

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1927

In my opinion this is the most advanced and interesting of the Linux desktop environments and your machine should run it no problem. It can be very similar to Windows but adds some very nice functionality Windows lacks. Also check out LibreOffice which comes with it for free and is a very nice MS Office alternative that is file compatible with MS Office files. Firefox or Chrome are good browser choices, I prefer Firefox myself. The included (with KDE) Dolphin File manager is also very nice. Overall, KDE strikes me as the most polished of the desktops and it has been around for a long time.

I liked Gnome as an alternative until Gnome 3 simplified it to a fault. Still, I personally like KDE better and would encourage you to try it. There are other excellent desktop options as well that run great on lesser PCs but since you can run KDE, why not just do that is my view.

Mint is nice because it doesn't make a big deal about including and installing proprietary drivers and codecs, making the installation of a fully working desktop a breeze. Ubuntu seems pretty good this way too but by default you'd be stuck with Unity which is an ugly, simplified, inflexible take on the Mac UI. That of course is just my opinion too but Unity is early in its development and it shows.

I just went through this same exercise with a laptop myself and tried the following desktops on it: LXDE, Xfce, Unity, Gnome 3, KDE 4.x (I forget the revision but it was the most current stable one). I tried them all using Linux Mint except for Unity which I tried with Ubuntu of course.

Ubuntu and the Linux Mint flavors are available as "Live CDs" so you can boot those from the DVD drive without installing them to test for compatibility, driver support, etc. and see what they are like. So you might like to download and burn a number of ISOs, burn them to discs and check out a few flavors to decide for yourself which you like the best. If you haven't had any reason to burn ISOs any time recently, the Linux Mint install pages tell you how to do that.

Once you've installed whatever you choose, check the package manager for games. You'll find lots of stuff to fool with. If you like strategy games, you might like to check out the free Warzone 2100 or Wesnoth games. You can also get a native Linux version of DOSBox to run DOSBox GOGs with. I setup one (Heroes of Might and Magic) to run in Linux and it worked flawlessly. Also in the package manager grab the latest version of Wine and you can run a fair number of Windows games with that as well. Google for "Wine appdb" for a database of what works well and doesn't, workarounds, etc.

I hope those suggestions are helpful. Enjoy checking out Linux. I think it is a great system for a laptop like that. I've even been tempted to add a partition to the hard disc on my main PC to run it, I liked the KDE desktop and apps so well. I may do that yet.

Oh, one last thing. In my experience of installing Linux on a laptop machine I found I needed to be connected to the net via ethernet so I could download a proprietary Broadcom wireless driver before the machine could connect on its own wirelessly. So to save some time and headaches I'd recommend being prepared to plug in with ethernet when you run whatever installation you wind up deciding upon. That way the Internet setup part of things will also run just fine for you. Once you've got your driver you can of course unplug and be all set with wireless from then on in.
Post edited March 21, 2012 by dirtyharry50
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HoneyBakedHam: I don't know anything about Linux, really.

My home has two desktops and two laptops running Win 7... but I have a third, older laptop... a Toshiba Satellite with an AMD Turion at 2.2 Ghz and 3 gigs of RAM. Rather than retire it, I thought I'd like to wipe it out and instal Linux.
I just wanted to repeat: good idea. To me that is the best use of Linux in home use, ie. turning old PCs into secure and productive machines ones again, without having to buy a new Windows release for them.

Others probably recommend the same Linux Mints or Ubuntus that I would have recommended too. Installing and setting up Linux is not really harder than Windows (barring some special cases), unless you try something silly like Slackware Linux.

Learning to use if effectively will take some time if Windows is all you've ever used (because it does many things differently), but you learn by doing and googling.
Post edited March 21, 2012 by timppu
I've been using Linux mints and think its a good place for person to start. One weird thing was they used to use a very difficult to uninstall google search toolbar in firefox but they stripped it out in response to whatever Google is up to these days. Never heard of DuckDuckGo until two weeks ago.

Your laptop almost sounds faster than my PC and I'm running the KDE version comfortably so I would back up recommendations for that version. I prefer KDE but Gnome is a leaner, more XP like experience that is good on low spec machines.

I used to be a big Suse fan or ease of use, but most of the tools they had have been replaced with proper tools every one has. Both Yast and Synaptic package installers are solid though I think Yast on Suse is slightly better, though not by much.
Post edited March 21, 2012 by gooberking
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Big thanks to all the great feedback. I knew this community would have something to say.

Seems Mint and Ubuntu are the clear choices... and since this PC isn't critical to any work I'm doing, there's no reason not to try them both. I think I'll opt for Mint first, but I plan to try Ubuntu as well.

Thanks again :-)
If you want a NICE looking desktop that won't make you pull your hair out like the stock Ubuntu one, then I suggest downloading Kubuntu. Seriously, the Ubuntu Unity thing is a horrible mess.

Oh and in order to get a proper desktop in Kubuntu you just have to change it from a notebook display setting to PC desktop. Look around in the System settings panel.

Why do I harp against Ubuntu? Because that was my starter Linux before moving on to a different distro and that desktop annoyed me to no end.

About Linux Mint, it sometimes has trouble with broadcomm built-in wireless cards due to the fact that it needs broadcomm firmware. Some Linux Mints require you to go through a rather elaborate process of doing this, while a newer version might just pop-up a window asking you to download the firmware. YMMV
Kubuntu (the KDE edition of Ubuntu) is the one to get if your a linux newbie. Well tested and user friendliest imho.
I'm dual booting 7 and Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu now except for Saturday nights where I use 7 to record a Psych marathon. They last until 6 in the morning and I do have to sleep. Ubuntu does force Unity but I've actually gotten used to it now and don't really care any more. For someone starting out that just wants to see what all is available I suggest Ubuntu since you can easily google something if you can't get it to work. If you install it and find that you can't stand Unity then just install Mint.
Got an Ubuntu/Vista dual boot on my laptop and it works like a charm.

It was so easy to setup that it was almost orgasmic.
Kubuntu or Mint are my suggestions with KDE desktop. Easy to use and install :)

You can also shop around on this website to check out different distros that are available:
http://distrowatch.com/
Post edited March 22, 2012 by Thunderstone
openSUSE 12.1 x64 with KDE ?