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Posted April 27, 2011
Here at GOG.com, we're all about our users and the partners who decided to join the crazy ride into the DRM-free PC gaming. We stick with them through sickness and health, the good and the bad times. As you may have heard, JoWooD is having some tough times lately. Together with the publisher we've decided to give you a chance to get your hands on all the JoWooD titles you're eagerly wanting to buy, but maybe haven't yet. Well, now's your chance to grab those gems at a heckuva bargain!

In this special week-long promo we encourage everyone to get JoWood games with an up to 75% discount! The catalogue includes such gems from PC gaming's past like , [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/gothic_2_gold_edition]Gothic 2, , [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_guild_gold_edition]The Guild and more. If you buy all games from JoWood's catalogue, or complete the collection, you'll receive a 75% discount! If you're interested only in some games from the offer, you can still get them for bargain with 60% off! The promo ends on Tuesday, May 3 at 11:59 p.m. EDT.

Since you guys are all going to be asking: we don't know what the future holds for JoWooD. To be safe, though, we recommend that you download any JoWooD titles you've purchased--either from this promo or not--and archive a backup of the GOG installer, because it never hurts to be safe.
Posted April 27, 2011
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ChilledKroete: "On April 21st, 2011, JoWood announced that, unable to negotiate with potential investors, they are officially facing bankruptcy proceedings and have withdrawn their application for a recapitalization plan." (Wikipedia)
- In other words, JoWood is about to go bye-bye.
Great, another (formerly) great publisher run into the ground >_<
As happy as I am to see this sale, it saddens me that they have gone south like that...
I mean, I loved Gothic 2 (still do!), and to this day I enjoy playing The Guild every now and then. But let's face it, when it came to The Guild 2 and Gothic 3, they screwed up. Badly. Those games were so bugged... I can't even put it into words.
Making your customers beta testers for your unfinished games isn't exactly a recipe for success, so this doesn't come as a total surprise, but still - it's not pretty to see them take their last breath like this.
Oh well, at least they go out with a small bang ;) I'm definitely going for the Aquanox titles; maybe even for the whole bundle, even though I already own the Gothic games twice and The Guild once... but hey, better safe than sorry, right?
Speaking of which, is there any chance those games will someday be available in their original language (for The Guild/Gothic, that would be German)? Thing is, just like films, I usually prefer games in their original language...
I'll be honest, I'm not going to mourn the passing of JoWood at all. Yes, they had some damn fine games under their banner, but that's despite JoWood, not because of them. They treat developers like crap, release unfinished games that they don't bother to support, engage in shady business practices (especially when it comes to respecting proper distribution and IP rights), and just generally do everything you'd expect a terrible publisher to do.

They're a pox on gaming, no better than Activision but without that company's bottomless pockets, and the industry is better without them. The biggest shame is the catalog of legitimately great games they might be taking down with them.
Posted April 27, 2011
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godspeeed: great deal...


If ALL GOG users take advantage of this promo... Will it save JoWood?
No, JoWood is being liquidated. It's over. All of the JoWood sales you see across various digital distributors is the result of this -- creditors are trying to maximize their recovery.

Also for people worrying about Gothic 2, the rights to the Gothic franchise are soon reverting back to PB so the bankruptcy/shutting down of JoWood should have zero effect on its availability. Unless, for some odd reason, PB would only want to offer G1 and not G2 through GoG. As for the other games, who knows, but I'm not really interested in them anyway.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by Metro09
Posted April 27, 2011
Well, tried the Dark Fall demo, and I think in the full game the navigation would just drive me nuts, so I'll pass.

Downloading Chaser demo now...

Edit. Ok, after the Chaser demo I'm still undecided. Great graphics for its time, better than Chrome's. But a large portion of the demo consisted of me trying to figure out where the hell the guys killing me are actually shooting from - kinda frustrating.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by kalirion
Posted April 27, 2011
Hm, should i buy a cushion so JoWood's ass hurts less when they fall? Why not.;) Spreading the word as we speak.
Posted April 27, 2011
If the JoWooD games are taken from sale they should still be on our shelves because we've paid for them. I've bought games I already own because the discs are lost somewhere so if the games are removed from the accounts it's just the same as another losable cd. I'm downloading them all now just in case but one of the reasons for using GoG is always having the game available to access without searching.
Posted April 27, 2011
If you have not bought Gothic 2 Gold yet, do yourself a favor, buy it now. This game is still one of the best RPGs around.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by bagelobo
Posted April 27, 2011
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amcdermo: If the JoWooD games are taken from sale they should still be on our shelves because we've paid for them. I've bought games I already own because the discs are lost somewhere so if the games are removed from the accounts it's just the same as another losable cd. I'm downloading them all now just in case but one of the reasons for using GoG is always having the game available to access without searching.
They are not removed from people's accounts. There have been at least one half dozen titles removed from the catalogue, but none of them have been taken away from buyers.
Posted April 27, 2011
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amcdermo: If the JoWooD games are taken from sale they should still be on our shelves because we've paid for them. I've bought games I already own because the discs are lost somewhere so if the games are removed from the accounts it's just the same as another losable cd. I'm downloading them all now just in case but one of the reasons for using GoG is always having the game available to access without searching.
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gamebin: They are not removed from people's accounts. There have been at least one half dozen titles removed from the catalogue, but none of them have been taken away from buyers.
That's what I would have assumed except the OP says to download them in case something happens.
Posted April 27, 2011
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gamebin: They are not removed from people's accounts. There have been at least one half dozen titles removed from the catalogue, but none of them have been taken away from buyers.
Not to get all lawyer on you (which I can not since I'm a mere law firm flunky), but when companies go into bankruptcy things get dicey. Depending upon the jurisdiction of the parent or holding company, prior licensing arrangements may be altered or revoked. Just because a different vendor in a different situation did a certain action has no bearing on the present circumstances. I would surmise that our 'purchases' might not be true purchases, but instead might be licenses with no expiration. I'm too busy backing up my JoWood games to read the fine print...
Posted April 27, 2011
Gothic 2 Gold is one of the free options for people who pre-order Witcher 2. Witcher 2 is still over two weeks away, though. So will they still be able to give it away free?

Probably best just to release Witcher 2 right now. Then all will be well. For me, anyway. ;)
Posted April 27, 2011
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gamebin: They are not removed from people's accounts. There have been at least one half dozen titles removed from the catalogue, but none of them have been taken away from buyers.
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Mimo: Not to get all lawyer on you (which I can not since I'm a mere law firm flunky), but when companies go into bankruptcy things get dicey. Depending upon the jurisdiction of the parent or holding company, prior licensing arrangements may be altered or revoked. Just because a different vendor in a different situation did a certain action has no bearing on the present circumstances. I would surmise that our 'purchases' might not be true purchases, but instead might be licenses with no expiration. I'm too busy backing up my JoWood games to read the fine print...
Its just a way to s**** the customer over.

Like movies when they first had VHS, then you need to re-buy it for DVD and then you need to re-buy it again for Blue-ray.

The way I see it, they originally have the product's copyright that has a certain value.

As they sell copies of the product, they are liquidating its value as more and more people will have their copy and won't buy it again.

And when the company goes under, they can sell the copyright with its price lowered to adjust for the fact that some of the copyright's value got used up.

You don't go tell customer that their copy is null and void so that they have to buy it all over again and that way it can be sold for more to whoever buys the copyright. Maybe such practice are legal, but they are not fair... this is greed affecting laws for its own gain and our laws ought to be fairer than that.
Post edited April 27, 2011 by Magnitus
Posted April 27, 2011
Only one I don't have is Chaser.

Worth getting?
Posted April 27, 2011
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sethsez: I'll be honest, I'm not going to mourn the passing of JoWood at all. Yes, they had some damn fine games under their banner, but that's despite JoWood, not because of them. They treat developers like crap, release unfinished games that they don't bother to support, engage in shady business practices (especially when it comes to respecting proper distribution and IP rights), and just generally do everything you'd expect a terrible publisher to do.

They're a pox on gaming, no better than Activision but without that company's bottomless pockets, and the industry is better without them. The biggest shame is the catalog of legitimately great games they might be taking down with them.
Actually, I can't really say I disagree - as I said, they *used* to publish great games. But in the end, the developers who made those games such as Piranha Bytes are apparently better off without JoWood. What I mourn is rather what they were than what they've become - or, more precisely, the gogs they're probably taking into oblivion with them...
Post edited April 27, 2011 by ChilledKroete
Posted April 27, 2011
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nondeplumage: Only one I don't have is Chaser.

Worth getting?
I'm wondering the same thing... while the reviews aren't great, the setting and screenshots look interesting enough...
And then, seeing as how it'd cost you less than a cup of coffee (assuming you own all the other games of the bundle on GOG), I suppose you can't go too wrong ;)
Posted April 27, 2011
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nondeplumage: Only one I don't have is Chaser.

Worth getting?
Go for it. For you it'll be slightly more than 1$, and despite what reviews say it's not that bad.
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