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wpegg: Are we still going with this? Did he ever tell us how old he was? I'm not bothering to read the posts, seems all really simple unless there's a clanger in something he's posted.

Here's a nice moral one for you: I had a girlfriend when I was 20, and she was 18. She looked 15, had the body of a 15 yr old, and to be honest (she was a bit of a princess) she acted like a 15 yr old. I actually had to cheat and check the karate club records (I was secretary) to double check her age. Was I wrong to date her?

(I'm old now, and nothing came of it, but it's an interesting question - to me).
Just saying hello to the voice of reason.. I seem to recall, you were always the best at this :-)

Merry Christmas, or whatever else makes the season!

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When I was 30 I had a 21-year-old all up in my stuff. That was pretty awesome. :-)
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Avogadro6: <snip>
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wpegg: It was more a philosophical question (though philosphists would hate for me to call it such). To put the question simply: Is a women that looks 15, acts 15, but is 18, more appropriate to sleep with than a woman that looks 18, acts 18, but is 15. The quick easy answer is obvious (it's the law), I was just suggesting a little debate on the more grey side of things for people of that age.
"Looks X and acts X" is so vague that I can only guess what you mean. My experience of people of a certain age is probably vastly different from yours.

I think the most important thing is that both persons are fully aware of themselves and the implications of their actions, and never do anything that might harm one another in body and mind; which banally means, have respect of themselves and each other.
Neither of these things, or maturity in general, can be syntethized with a number, nor measured and catalogued as you'd do with physical traits. The law establish some artificial barriers that we come to accept for the most part, and that in turn may lead to certain expectations (a 18 year old is supposed to be mature - as if) but it's mostly a cultural thing in the end.

I knew this girl (friend of a friend) who was 16 and looked way older than her age, more like 27+. When people didn't believe how old she was, like me when I found out, she used to complain that nobody ever did, and that whenever she picked up her little brother at school she was often mistaken for the mom. :)
Her boyfriend must have been 25 or so back then. I was 17 or 18 at that time, and my first thought was something along the lines of "that fucking pedo can't find a woman of his age and is looking for an easy fuck". In truth, I couldn't really know for sure... I never really talked much with either of them, and they actually looked pretty happy together. But the gut feeling remains.

As for your question, no, nothing wrong with a couple of 20 and 18. Two years difference is nothing, and as far as the law goes you were both fine. As long as with "acting 15" means she had a childish attitude and not some kind of mental issues (not saying that's the case, mind) I don't see any problem at all, besides her possibly being annoying at times.
There are no great dilemmas; right is right, and wrong is wrong.

These things are defined in your mind, need no public discussion, but best of luck.

Forgo the urge to find justification for weakness, or justification for being all so absolute.

Follow what you really feel, inside, and don't troll the bottom looking for answers.

Merry Christmas, from the bottom.
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DieRuhe: When I was 30 I had a 21-year-old all up in my stuff. That was pretty awesome. :-)
When I was 36, I had a 20-year-old all up in my stuff. That was pretty awesome. When I was 37, she was still 20 (albeit only for 3 months) and now that I am 38, I have a 22 year old all up in my stuff.

I define our relationship purely based on age. I am hoping that when I hit 40, I have a 23 year old all up in my stuff. She is the most amazing woman I have been with. Fuck scratch that, I am breaking the stereotype and assumptions of our relationship based on age.

It was our 2 year anniversary today :)

I might respond to the OP but I am more interested in challenging some of the assumptions made by hyper-critical people in this thread. Nah fuck it, why bother? You have your experiences and assumptions of other people's experiences in life, and I have mine :)

PS - she just said that I might be coming across as aggressive to you DieRuhe (I read her this before posting) and that is not my intent at all. It was my way of trying to be humourous, something that can fail with mere words on a screen rather than a big grin on my face :)

Now you're a man...

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Dischord: There are no great dilemmas; right is right, and wrong is wrong.

These things are defined in your mind, need no public discussion, but best of luck.

Forgo the urge to find justification for weakness, or justification for being all so absolute.

Follow what you really feel, inside, and don't troll the bottom looking for answers.

Merry Christmas, from the bottom.
Damn that is a brilliant answer :)
Post edited December 28, 2014 by Tarnicus
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Tarnicus: PS - she just said that I might be coming across as aggressive to you DieRuhe (I read her this before posting) and that is not my intent at all. It was my way of trying to be humourous, something that can fail with mere words on a screen rather than a big grin on my face :)
No worries; I took it the way it was intended. I generally don't go around saying things like "all up in my stuff" but I thought it fit the situation. :-)
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SalarShushan: Well, I am glad to hear you are choosing to do the right thing, which could be limited to 'un-friending' them - just say the truth, that you didn't realize they were too young and wish them well. I don't see why you'd have to delete your whole account.

Honestly, based on your other post on the Christmas thread, I'd think the mere potential for MORE damage and drama is reason enough to stay far, far away.

Continuing in prayer for you.
My deepest gratitude, and most sincere well wishing. I wish i could enjoy some basic human "commodities", without having to resort to ruining my personality and exploiting the weaknesses of human nature, but in life, very rarely things come the way someone wishes them to. I hate being a thief and a scavenger. I really do. May your kindness be rewarded.
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Fenixp: If they ain't over 18, well, just hands off, there are opportunities which are definitely not worth pursuing :-P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Greece

Age of consent in Greece seems to be 15, so apparently your advice was not about "or else the law enforcement will come crashing to your house", but something else?

Then again I have no idea how old KingBradley is (20? 30? 60?). I didn't yet read further if KB revealed how old those school girls were in reality.

EDIT: Ok late to the party, this was already discussed.
Post edited December 29, 2014 by timppu