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monkeydelarge: They don't really have bargain bins here in the USA anymore.
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Magnitus: PC retail is pretty much dead in Montreal as well at this point.

Last time I checked a few years back, the PC section in stores was tiny and really about full priced newer games with the rest of the space occupied by console games. This was true even in stores that previously sported only PC products.

At first, I wondered if PC gaming was free falling until I realized it had simply migrated online which made complete sense.
I guess stores in America realized, the bargain bins encourage people to look for good deals instead of just going in and buying whatever.
I don't usually buy guys without knowing what they are, so I don't think so. That said, I found a copy of The Temple of Elemental Evil for 2E, and a Tales of Monkey Island for 4E, both in said bargain bin. Oh, and a Spellforce Universe box also for 2E (ok, this one was kind of a blind buy).
PC bargain bins were dead (at least in my area) when I started my PC gaming career. The only exception was the bottom shelf at GameStop, which was usually just full of those "5,000,000 Games" compilation discs.

The same copy of XIII sat on that bottom shelf for four years before I finally bought the poor, battered, torn up box for $5. It was one of my best purchases.
Now this thread has been thoroughly derailed!

jamyskis specifically wanted to know about games that are (or at least look like) they have been produced to go straight into the bargain bin and make money through sold volume rather than quality but in the end turn out to be better than anticipated. He even said he does not want to know about AAA stuff that goes to the bargain bin after a while to clear the shelves. Yet everybody talks only about that.

To get the thread back on track I'll give three examples of games that surprised me:

*) Plants vs. Zombies: At first look it is an oversimplified tower defense game with a campy name. But the constant introduction of new plants and zombies throughout the game, the humor and the cute graphics make this game more fun than anticipated and the game quickly became a hit.

*) Angry Birds: Looks primitive (and actually is!) but the fact that every level can be completed within 1-2 minutes makes this a perfect time waster for short breaks. Guessing how to make everything collapse to kill all pigs in the increasingly different levels with the birds available and the variety of different birds keeps this game fresh for quite some time.

*) One finger death punch: This game is more fun than it has any right to be! Check out Total Biscuit's video of the game. I hope it comes here one day because at the moment it is on Steam only. :-(
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Geralt_of_Rivia: Now this thread has been thoroughly derailed!

jamyskis specifically wanted to know about games that are (or at least look like) they have been produced to go straight into the bargain bin and make money through sold volume rather than quality but in the end turn out to be better than anticipated. He even said he does not want to know about AAA stuff that goes to the bargain bin after a while to clear the shelves. Yet everybody talks only about that.
Yes... I see. I admit I only read the first sentence of the OP before posting. Now that I've read it fully...

There was an adventure game I found for five bucks called Jack the Ripper. It felt like it was probably made in a couple of months on a really low budget. It wasn't really a good game... At all. It was rushed, a lot of things were broken, there were really annoying triggers you had to find to progress through the game, the ending pissed me off...
But despite all that, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. It had good atmosphere, some good horror, and an fun and interesting mystery to solve. I ended up playing it three times, and reminiscing about it makes me want to find the disc and install it again.
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hucklebarry: I don't think I've ever stumbled across the OP's definition of bargain bin games.

However, some games I have found in the retail stores bargain bin...

NOLF - $7.00
System Shock 2 - $14.00 (this was quite a while ago ;) )
Lord of the Rings Online (during SoA) $5.00
Half Life 2 - $5.00
Chaos Theory - $9.99 (was later restocked for 29.99)
Gun - $7.00
Condemned - $5.00

The two most surprising to me were NOLF and Condemned. I only tried them based on price and boredom... they are two of my favorite games now.
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monkeydelarge: They don't really have bargain bins here in the USA anymore.
I still see them.
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monkeydelarge: They don't really have bargain bins here in the USA anymore.
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hucklebarry: I still see them.
Where?
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monkeydelarge: I guess stores in America realized, the bargain bins encourage people to look for good deals instead of just going in and buying whatever.
I think bargain bin hunters have always been a minority (or at least, the smaller source of revenue).

Keeping the space for the new titles and removing the bargain bin was definitely the result of a shift in stores where less shelf space would be dedicated to PC games which forced the bargain bin for PC games out as shelf space for new games has always been higher priority then the bargain bin when forced to pick between the two.

Something in the retail landscape just changed.

What I wonder is which came first, the chicken or the egg,

Did online distribution like Steam, Gamesgate, GOG, DotEmu & al., force retail to go more with consoles because they wouldn't go digital as fast or did retail go with consoles more for other reasons and in doing so opened up the door wider for digital distribution on the PC?

I mean, consoles have been huge for a while, but there was a deliberate shift in the last decade where more stores that previously specialize in PC products (including games) when ballistic on consoles for the gaming department.

I'm not complaining, I prefer digital distribution (although digital distribution ala GOG or DotEmu), but I'm curious as to the causes for the shift.

Something that I can definitely see contributing would have been the fact that the price of console games doesn't/didn't decrease as fast as the price for PC games which would make console games more reliable long term shelf estate.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by Magnitus
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hucklebarry: I still see them.
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monkeydelarge: Where?
Target, Walmart, Best Buy, Gamestop....
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monkeydelarge: I guess stores in America realized, the bargain bins encourage people to look for good deals instead of just going in and buying whatever.
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Magnitus: I think bargain bin hunters have always been a minority (or at least, the smaller source of revenue).

Keeping the space for the new titles and removing the bargain bin was definitely the result of a shift in stores where less shelf space would be dedicated to PC games which forced the bargain bin for PC games out as shelf space for new games has always been higher priority then the bargain bin when forced to pick between the two.

Something in the retail landscape just changed.

What I wonder is which came first, the chicken or the egg,

Did online distribution like Steam, Gamesgate, GOG, DotEmu & al., force retail to go more with consoles because they wouldn't go digital as fast or did retail go with consoles more for other reasons and in doing so opened up the door wider for digital distribution on the PC?

I mean, consoles have been huge for a while, but there was a deliberate shift in the last decade where more stores that previously specialize in PC products (including games) when ballistic on consoles for the gaming department.

I'm not complaining, I prefer digital distribution (although digital distribution ala GOG or DotEmu), but I'm curious as to the causes for the shift.

Something that I can definitely see contributing would have been the fact that the price of console games doesn't/didn't decrease as fast as the price for PC games which would make console games more reliable long term shelf estate.
Most Americans I've met who played games were console gamers so I'm pretty sure retail stores started making more room for console games because that's what most of their customers are looking for.
I found my all time favorite game in a bargain bin, having never heard of it before. Not even in a gaming store, small supermarket had a bunch of games as their weekly special of random cheap stuff. Something like 5€ for a trading game with some city building, not too much combat but a lot of management sailing around medieval europe. Was over a decade ago and I still play Patrician 3 regularly.

But it put the bar for random bargain finds impossibly high.
A few months ago I found Splatterhouse (for PS3) for about 8 bucks. Worth every penny (not to mention that the game was getting pretty hard to find).
A game from Steam's Bargain Bin (Sorry for mentioning the competition) Space Trader: Merchant Marine Has given me hours of fun (75 accourding To Steam). It's an FPS/ Economics sim ware you buy low and sell high. It's easy, but can sometimes offer challenge, has very nice graphics for a game made on the Quake 2 engine, a quirky sense of humour, enjoyably strange physics (You never talk fall damage) and a chilled out sound-track.
I play it when talking on Skype because like Duke 3D and Torchlight (My other favourite Skype games) It requires almost no attention to play.

It's shovelware and I love it.

(And it's currently on sale for less than £1)
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monkeydelarge: Most Americans I've met who played games were console gamers so I'm pretty sure retail stores started making more room for console games because that's what most of their customers are looking for.
I'm not sure it's the entire story.

I mean, I think consoles always had the lion's share of the market since NES came around when I was 6.

Yet, there were plenty of stores selling PC games.

Then all of a sudden, ALL of those stores started specilizing in console games and shrank their PC section to a limited selection of new full priced titles. The PC bargain bin went totally extinct in my area in the span of a few years.

I'm thinking the push couldn't have come entirely from the desires of the customer base. There must have been other considerations.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by Magnitus
Yep. I bought the original Age of Wonders from a bargain bin, way back in the days of yore. Quickly became a favorite, which I've spent 100's of hours on, both playing and making maps.

I also bought Wizardry 8 originally from a bargain bin, the original Call of Duty (when the series was actually good), Medieval: Total War, and a game pack with Gothic 3 in it (And Dungeon Lords, but that surprise was the opposite of the thread's title).