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pimpmonkey2382: Do the transgendered get help?
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DrakoPensulo: :D A good one. I suppose that in a near future they will support everyone but white straight males. ;)
Um, did you notice that the school is free for everyone? Not sure why you and the poster you've quoted decided to latch onto the small grant provided to encourage more females to attend but apparently Google feels it is a big enough issue for them to provide specific support. I mean how many females were in your last programming class? I'm quite sure that these super-smart peeps will discontinue this kind of grant when they're seeing a certain level-set of genders attending. Oh and did I mention "The school is free for everyone."?

The thing is that I see that every single thread that even dares to mention females in any context whatsoever ends up with these kinds of highly-charged, negative comments. Specifically, both of you don't seem to post very much - but hey, a thread that happens to mention supporting females and you're right there with a trollish remark. This is exactly why females need a bit of a push to open the door to a male-dominated field. Just sayin' and thanks for proving my point for me ;-p

Lastly, I am a mother, obviously female and I went back to school to learn to code at a pretty advanced age. Trust me when I say that it takes courage to face a room full of 20-something guys with exactly no other females in the room. It is daunting to say the least. So next time you're tempted to bash something - consider that it could be your mother posting about a cool FREE opportunity for everyone (oh and gals, here's a bit of extra incentive to brave a field full of men, as a sidebar to the main conversation).




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Momo1991:
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Sachys: OYC = Old York City

*beats momo with caffiene stick
Oy veh!

http://oyc.yale.edu/
Post edited January 07, 2014 by Momo1991
I wonder why that is though. You'd think programming would be less daunting than say, females joining the military (Which I respect.)
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Momo1991: Oy veh!

http://oyc.yale.edu/
*sends out the 9th legion to obliterate yale
Post edited January 07, 2014 by Sachys
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pimpmonkey2382: I wonder why that is though. You'd think programming would be less daunting than say, females joining the military (Which I respect.)
I guess it used to be that math was pushed on males more than females - and it kind of snowballed into a mindset that only guys are programmers/mathematicians/engineers/technical fields. Women were encouraged to pursue writing and liberal arts etc... So with generations being brought up in a kind of "men are good at this and women are good at that", it's going to take some societal rewiring to change that mindset.

Plus it is only really, really recently that women have been allowed into actual combat situations...though I certainly applaud anyone that actively decides to serve and protect their country in such a manner.

~off to my Statistics class - at least I'm fairly certain I won't be the only female ;-p~
Post edited January 07, 2014 by Momo1991
The only language I'd learn though would be sweet talk rather than basic. xD :P
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DrakoPensulo: :D A good one. I suppose that in a near future they will support everyone but white straight males. ;)
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Momo1991: Um, did you notice that the school is free for everyone? Not sure why you and the poster you've quoted decided to latch onto the small grant provided to encourage more females to attend but apparently Google feels it is a big enough issue for them to provide specific support. I mean how many females were in your last programming class? I'm quite sure that these super-smart peeps will discontinue this kind of grant when they're seeing a certain level-set of genders attending. Oh and did I mention "The school is free for everyone."?

The thing is that I see that every single thread that even dares to mention females in any context whatsoever ends up with these kinds of highly-charged, negative comments. Specifically, both of you don't seem to post very much - but hey, a thread that happens to mention supporting females and you're right there with a trollish remark. This is exactly why females need a bit of a push to open the door to a male-dominated field. Just sayin' and thanks for proving my point for me ;-p

Lastly, I am a mother, obviously female and I went back to school to learn to code at a pretty advanced age. Trust me when I say that it takes courage to face a room full of 20-something guys with exactly no other females in the room. It is daunting to say the least. So next time you're tempted to bash something - consider that it could be your mother posting about a cool FREE opportunity for everyone (oh and gals, here's a bit of extra incentive to brave a field full of men, as a sidebar to the main conversation).
Do not take comments like that so seriously. I have nothing against supporting females.

Though, it would be interesting to see what happens when some well-known company (in any field) says "we give more support to males than to females"...
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Momo1991: Um, did you notice that the school is free for everyone? Not sure why you and the poster you've quoted decided to latch onto the small grant provided to encourage more females to attend but apparently Google feels it is a big enough issue for them to provide specific support. I mean how many females were in your last programming class? I'm quite sure that these super-smart peeps will discontinue this kind of grant when they're seeing a certain level-set of genders attending. Oh and did I mention "The school is free for everyone."?

The thing is that I see that every single thread that even dares to mention females in any context whatsoever ends up with these kinds of highly-charged, negative comments. Specifically, both of you don't seem to post very much - but hey, a thread that happens to mention supporting females and you're right there with a trollish remark. This is exactly why females need a bit of a push to open the door to a male-dominated field. Just sayin' and thanks for proving my point for me ;-p

Lastly, I am a mother, obviously female and I went back to school to learn to code at a pretty advanced age. Trust me when I say that it takes courage to face a room full of 20-something guys with exactly no other females in the room. It is daunting to say the least. So next time you're tempted to bash something - consider that it could be your mother posting about a cool FREE opportunity for everyone (oh and gals, here's a bit of extra incentive to brave a field full of men, as a sidebar to the main conversation).
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DrakoPensulo: Do not take comments like that so seriously. I have nothing against supporting females.

Though, it would be interesting to see what happens when some well-known company (in any field) says "we give more support to males than to females"...
I'm tempted to say something but I wont because I know momo doesn't want this thread to go there. I think it is really cool that there is a hacker school free for everyone. I wish there were more around the world.


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pimpmonkey2382: I wonder why that is though. You'd think programming would be less daunting than say, females joining the military (Which I respect.)
Well in the military, females join and train with mostly, other females.
Post edited January 07, 2014 by monkeydelarge
But the job isn't exclusively female.
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pimpmonkey2382: But the job isn't exclusively female.
Yeah but being a female soldier doesn't require you to be the only female somewhere surrounded by hundreds of men.
But would take a bit more determination to get through rather than just being a female programmer surrounded by male programmers.
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pimpmonkey2382: But would take a bit more determination to get through rather than just being a female programmer surrounded by male programmers.
Depends on which female we are talking about, I guess. Some will find the military easier than being surrounded by 100s of guys and some will find it easier to be surrounded by 100s of guys.
Post edited January 07, 2014 by monkeydelarge
I'd imagine all of the innuendos referencing Basic or C++ would get annoying though. :P
Wow, guys. Way to turn a thread about programming into a thread showcasing ignorance about gender equality.

Pbththththbbbbbth.
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misteryo: Wow, guys. Way to turn a thread about programming into a thread showcasing ignorance about gender equality.

Pbththththbbbbbth.
A post like this, only makes things worse for people like you. You are pouring fuel into the fire you are taking about. Why?
Post edited January 07, 2014 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: -- CUT --

I think it is really cool that there is a hacker school free for everyone. I wish there were more around the world.
No question about that.