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Licurg: There's no "racism" , just what my friend told me.
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tinyE: It's a racist comment, regardless of if you said it or are just relating it. I'm not insinuating anything about you or even your friend, simply pointing something out. Either way you have the right to post it so I'm only giving you a little shit about it, nothing more.
It could be racist or it could also just be ethnocentric or could just be those areas are high in crime. And we won't know until we know exactly why Licurg's friend said those areas should be avoided.
Post edited June 26, 2013 by langurmonkey
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tinyE: It's a racist comment, regardless of if you said it or are just relating it. I'm not insinuating anything about you or even your friend, simply pointing something out. Either way you have the right to post it so I'm only giving you a little shit about it, nothing more.
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langurmonkey: It could be racist but it could also just be ethnocentric.
Point taken.
Lets get off this tangent, sorry I mentioned it. I want to keep making fun of the guards and over priced cigarettes! :D
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langurmonkey: It could be racist but it could also just be ethnocentric.
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tinyE: Point taken.
Lets get off this tangent, sorry I mentioned it. I want to keep making fun of the guards and over priced cigarettes! :D
DELETED because due to recent knowledge gained, I can now see I wrote very offensive words here.
Post edited June 26, 2013 by langurmonkey
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Licurg: A friend of mine who lived in London for a few years told me if I ever go there, to find out which parts are inhabited by pakistanis and bangladeshis and avoid them like the plague. Never been there myself tho, so can't say .
Speaking as a Romanian who used to live in the UK, the exact same thing was said about Romanians, all Indians and most people from different regions in Africa. Strangely I didn't have one problem with any of them.
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Wishbone: 3. Any suggestions for things to see/do? I'll be having my 12-year-old son with me, so things he might also appreciate are welcome, but we also plan to leave him in the care of my in-laws occasionally. We've already planned to see three museums, so no suggestions for those, please.
221b Baker Street

Madame Tussauds (I know, you said no museums. But I thought this might count as an exception because it might be quite fun for your son. If you have the money - it is quite expensive).

If he isn't too big for that already you might also visit the Diana Memorial playground in the Royal Parks - it has a cool pirate ship to play on.

Or you might just go skating through Hyde Park. It's a very nice area.

Or if you want the full dose of touristic crap, you can book the Harry Potter Bus tour and suffer while your kid enjoys himself. :-)


P.S. Oh, and if you have your wife with you avoid Bond Street like the plague, or you will leave London a good deal poorer than you came.
Post edited June 26, 2013 by Lifthrasil
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tinyE: Point taken.
Lets get off this tangent, sorry I mentioned it. I want to keep making fun of the guards and over priced cigarettes! :D
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langurmonkey: You mean overpriced fags. :) They smoke fags in London, not cigarettes.
*sigh* I deliberately refrained from using that word, to avoid confusion and/or stupid comments from people not familiar with British slang and/or with a poor sense of humor.
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Licurg: A friend of mine who lived in London for a few years told me if I ever go there, to find out which parts are inhabited by pakistanis and bangladeshis and avoid them like the plague. Never been there myself tho, so can't say .
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AndrewC: Speaking as a Romanian who used to live in the UK, the exact same thing was said about Romanians, all Indians and most people from different regions in Africa. Strangely I didn't have one problem with any of them.
I don't think they were talking about "Romanians", if you get my point ;)
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langurmonkey: You mean overpriced fags. :) They smoke fags in London, not cigarettes.
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Wishbone: *sigh* I deliberately refrained from using that word, to avoid confusion and/or stupid comments from people not familiar with British slang and/or with a poor sense of humor.
Poor sense of humor? What an elitist thing to say... Just because you don't find something funny, one has to have a poor sense of humor to find it funny? That is like saying, if you don't like the same kind of beer I like, your taste in beer is shit...
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Wishbone: *sigh* I deliberately refrained from using that word, to avoid confusion and/or stupid comments from people not familiar with British slang and/or with a poor sense of humor.
"Can I bum a fag, mate?"
"Sure, let me reach into my fanny pack"

There, 2 countries seperated by a common language ;)
In the U.S. in the 1800's, maybe later, faggot was a log. There is a cute joke about it in Rustlers Rhapsody.
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Lifthrasil: Or if you want the full dose of touristic crap, you can book the Harry Potter Bus tour and suffer while your kid enjoys himself. :-)
Actually, he's not a Harry Potter fan. Probably because I refuse to buy the movies, since I find them much (I SAID MUCH!) inferior to the books. In a few years, when his English skills are better, I expect him to start reading the books. Yes, they have been translated into Danish, but they are better in English.

So I'm the only Harry Potter fan in our household, but I wouldn't enjoy the bus tour, I assure you ;-)
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Wishbone: *sigh* I deliberately refrained from using that word, to avoid confusion and/or stupid comments from people not familiar with British slang and/or with a poor sense of humor.
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langurmonkey: Poor sense of humor? What an elitist thing to say... Just because you don't find something funny, one has to have a poor sense of humor to find it funny? That is like saying, if you don't like the same kind of beer I like, your taste in beer is shit...
Not quite. Look around the internet, and tell me that the word "fag" is not both horribly overused and misused, mostly in a rather unfunny way.
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Wishbone: *sigh* I deliberately refrained from using that word, to avoid confusion and/or stupid comments from people not familiar with British slang and/or with a poor sense of humor.
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JMich: "Can I bum a fag, mate?"
"Sure, let me reach into my fanny pack"

There, 2 countries seperated by a common language ;)
That, on the other hand, is funny ;-)
Post edited June 26, 2013 by Wishbone
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Lifthrasil: Or if you want the full dose of touristic crap, you can book the Harry Potter Bus tour and suffer while your kid enjoys himself. :-)
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Wishbone: Actually, he's not a Harry Potter fan. Probably because I refuse to buy the movies, since I find them much (I SAID MUCH!) inferior to the books. In a few years, when his English skills are better, I expect him to start reading the books. Yes, they have been translated into Danish, but they are better in English.

So I'm the only Harry Potter fan in our household, but I wouldn't enjoy the bus tour, I assure you ;-)
The movies are way inferior to the books but I still have them all and cherish them all. And yeah, I could give two shits about the bus tour or the platform that evidently they've had to rope off because of kids knocking themselves out running into it. :D

And for everyone's viewing pleasure here is one of my favorite London related bits from an actually shitty movie. Still this clip is great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgX6qlJEMc
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Lifthrasil: Or if you want the full dose of touristic crap, you can book the Harry Potter Bus tour and suffer while your kid enjoys himself. :-)
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Wishbone: Actually, he's not a Harry Potter fan. Probably because I refuse to buy the movies, since I find them much (I SAID MUCH!) inferior to the books. In a few years, when his English skills are better, I expect him to start reading the books. Yes, they have been translated into Danish, but they are better in English.

So I'm the only Harry Potter fan in our household, but I wouldn't enjoy the bus tour, I assure you ;-)
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langurmonkey: Poor sense of humor? What an elitist thing to say... Just because you don't find something funny, one has to have a poor sense of humor to find it funny? That is like saying, if you don't like the same kind of beer I like, your taste in beer is shit...
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Wishbone: Not quite. Look around the internet, and tell me that the word "fag" is not both horribly overused and misused, mostly in a rather unfunny way.
DELETED because due to recent knowledge gained, I can now see I wrote very offensive words here.
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tinyE: In the U.S. in the 1800's, maybe later, faggot was a log. There is a cute joke about it in Rustlers Rhapsody.
DELETED because due to recent knowledge gained, I can now see I wrote very offensive words here.
Post edited June 26, 2013 by langurmonkey
I'd recommend (depending on where you're staying);

The Tower Of London

The London Eye

Hampstead Heath and walk into Hampstead for cafe / restaurant / etc)

The Globe

Tate Modern

Also Hampton Court Palace and Kew Gardens (if you want to escape the city for an afternoon)

and the aforementioned Hyde Park.

I wouldn't recommend

Curries in Brick Lane

Madame Tussaud's

Camden Town with a young kid in tow

Random stuff:

There's some great shopping here, but be aware that it's going to seem very expensive to you.

Don't be afraid to use public transport but the buses can be rough at night.

British food isn't as bad as you think. London has everything in food up to the finest restaurants in the world, so you can eat well here.

British teeth are just as bad as you think.

Be thankful you're here in the summer because you're going to do most of your smoking outdoors :D
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Wishbone: Actually, he's not a Harry Potter fan. Probably because I refuse to buy the movies, since I find them much (I SAID MUCH!) inferior to the books. In a few years, when his English skills are better, I expect him to start reading the books. Yes, they have been translated into Danish, but they are better in English.

So I'm the only Harry Potter fan in our household, but I wouldn't enjoy the bus tour, I assure you ;-)

Not quite. Look around the internet, and tell me that the word "fag" is not both horribly overused and misused, mostly in a rather unfunny way.
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langurmonkey: You may find it unfunny and low class but a lot of people here in the USA find it funny and there is nothing wrong with that. All their life, fags mean one thing and then in a different country, people smoke them. Of course, when you hear it the 2nd time or the 3rd time etc, it is not so funny.
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tinyE: In the U.S. in the 1800's, maybe later, faggot was a log. There is a cute joke about it in Rustlers Rhapsody.
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langurmonkey: Yeah but today, fags means one thing. I'm not sure if this slang is offensive or not. If yes, I mean no offense against homosexual people. But a lot of people, when they hear for the first time, British people smoke fags and not cigarettes, do laugh. Not because they are against homosexual people, but because it is so unusual.
I think wherever you go you need to be prepared to adjust and this goes beyond language and comes down to common courtesy on the part of the visitor. In the U.S. fag is a pretty despicable term so it falls on the visitor to be weary of that and not toss it around willy nilly. In the U.K. it's not a despicable term so again in behooves the visitor to be aware of it and not laugh at or criticize the locals for using it. This can apply to a million terms, words, and customs and I think it is key when you are visiting anywhere. Shit, in upper Michigan "chink" is a building term. In lower Michigan it a racial slur. It's the SAME state for Christ sake and yet this HUGE difference.