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*yawn*

The Russian government doesn't actually need a reason to block sites. Think Youtube content ID or Google's ad policies: you're banned for hosting information that is inimical to Russian traditional values, harmful to children, offends religious sensibilities, promotes suicide, or incites terrorism. Anything can be blocked under these pretenses.

Obviously, if *everything* that "should" be blocked is blocked, the economy will cease functioning and Russian citizens will revolt. And Putin's kleptocracy relies on the economy struggling along and on the citizens' grumbling acceptance of Putin as the least evil. Regionally, that acceptance is already kind of shaky. On a negative side, there have been neonazi riots in Moscow (other places, too - but Moscow is the richest and most secure city, so that's telling how huge the problem is). On a positive side, in April, a Communist won mayorship of Novosibirsk as the opposition's sole candidate. Neither is going to work on a country-wide scale... for now.

So GOG doesn't really need to do anything - more importantly, for the safety of Russian users, GOG really shouldn't do anything to comply with the law. If Milonov gets a stiffy, GOG's going to be blocked hell or high water - except if they do honestly comply, Russian users will say goodbye to GOG's side of their proofs of purchase, and that'll suck.
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rtcvb32: It's one of the lines in the song/link referenced just above...

Think of the children

Go ahead, click it, you know you want to...
I know that it's a line from the song - after all, I posted the link ;-)

Still can't tell if you're being facetious/ sarcastic or serious (you know - straight text, no emoticons).
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HypersomniacLive: I know that it's a line from the song - after all, I posted the link ;-)
Oh, so you did....

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HypersomniacLive: Still can't tell if you're being facetious/ sarcastic or serious (you know - straight text, no emoticons).
When quoting a reference from something, i would take the same context and how it was presented. In this case, heavy sarcasm.
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Starmaker: *yawn*

The Russian government doesn't actually need a reason to block sites. Think Youtube content ID or Google's ad policies: you're banned for hosting information that is inimical to Russian traditional values, harmful to children, offends religious sensibilities, promotes suicide, or incites terrorism. Anything can be blocked under these pretenses.

Obviously, if *everything* that "should" be blocked is blocked, the economy will cease functioning and Russian citizens will revolt. And Putin's kleptocracy relies on the economy struggling along and on the citizens' grumbling acceptance of Putin as the least evil. Regionally, that acceptance is already kind of shaky. On a negative side, there have been neonazi riots in Moscow (other places, too - but Moscow is the richest and most secure city, so that's telling how huge the problem is). On a positive side, in April, a Communist won mayorship of Novosibirsk as the opposition's sole candidate. Neither is going to work on a country-wide scale... for now.

So GOG doesn't really need to do anything - more importantly, for the safety of Russian users, GOG really shouldn't do anything to comply with the law. If Milonov gets a stiffy, GOG's going to be blocked hell or high water - except if they do honestly comply, Russian users will say goodbye to GOG's side of their proofs of purchase, and that'll suck.
How did Neo-Nazism became so Popular in Russia after the staunch Anti-Nazism in the old Soviet Union.

Do the Russian Nazis even read what happened to the Soviets when the German Nazis invaded. Have they not read what happened in Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc.
Post edited July 10, 2014 by Elmofongo
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Starmaker: *yawn*

The Russian government doesn't actually need a reason to block sites. Think Youtube content ID or Google's ad policies: you're banned for hosting information that is inimical to Russian traditional values, harmful to children, offends religious sensibilities, promotes suicide, or incites terrorism. Anything can be blocked under these pretenses.

Obviously, if *everything* that "should" be blocked is blocked, the economy will cease functioning and Russian citizens will revolt. And Putin's kleptocracy relies on the economy struggling along and on the citizens' grumbling acceptance of Putin as the least evil. Regionally, that acceptance is already kind of shaky. On a negative side, there have been neonazi riots in Moscow (other places, too - but Moscow is the richest and most secure city, so that's telling how huge the problem is). On a positive side, in April, a Communist won mayorship of Novosibirsk as the opposition's sole candidate. Neither is going to work on a country-wide scale... for now.

So GOG doesn't really need to do anything - more importantly, for the safety of Russian users, GOG really shouldn't do anything to comply with the law. If Milonov gets a stiffy, GOG's going to be blocked hell or high water - except if they do honestly comply, Russian users will say goodbye to GOG's side of their proofs of purchase, and that'll suck.
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Elmofongo: How did Neo-Nazism became so Popular in Russia after the staunch Anti-Nazism in the old Soviet Union.

Do the Russian Nazis even read what happened to the Soviets when the German Nazis invaded. Have they not read what happened in Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc.
oh yeah thats something i would like to know too.
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Lexor: I've just found this interesting info.

As GOG requires user's email address for registration purposes, and email address is treated as "personal data", I wonder if GOG has any plans to move its servers to Russia?
souns like the typical western propaganda, to have a comparance, we need first to know if such laws exists in other countries, especially usa.
Post edited July 10, 2014 by apehater
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Elmofongo: How did Neo-Nazism became so Popular in Russia after the staunch Anti-Nazism in the old Soviet Union.

Do the Russian Nazis even read what happened to the Soviets when the German Nazis invaded. Have they not read what happened in Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc.
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apehater: oh yeah thats something i would like to know too.
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Lexor: I've just found this interesting info.

As GOG requires user's email address for registration purposes, and email address is treated as "personal data", I wonder if GOG has any plans to move its servers to Russia?
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apehater: souns like the typical western propaganda, to have a comparance, we need first to know if such laws exists in other countries, especially usa.
I think its happening in Europe aswell. Have you seen Football games where Euro audiances are making shouting like apes at the darker skined players and throwing bananas at them, talk about immature.
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apehater: oh yeah thats something i would like to know too.

souns like the typical western propaganda, to have a comparance, we need first to know if such laws exists in other countries, especially usa.
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Elmofongo: I think its happening in Europe aswell. Have you seen Football games where Euro audiances are making shouting like apes at the darker skined players and throwing bananas at them, talk about immature.
no, thats new to me, i'm very very less interested in football, can you link to a site with this story?
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Elmofongo: I think its happening in Europe aswell. Have you seen Football games where Euro audiances are making shouting like apes at the darker skined players and throwing bananas at them, talk about immature.
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apehater: no, thats new to me, i'm very very less interested in football, can you link to a site with this story?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football
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apehater: no, thats new to me, i'm very very less interested in football, can you link to a site with this story?
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Elmofongo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football
Seriously, that's what people should expect in a championship that is still based on nationalities (although quite loosely by now).
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Lexor: I've just found this interesting info.

As GOG requires user's email address for registration purposes, and email address is treated as "personal data", I wonder if GOG has any plans to move its servers to Russia?
Given the CIA and governmental data mining and spying that occurs on Facebook and anything associated with Google(who owns Youtube) I can understand Putin's perspective. I'm not saying that I agree with it and see the "think of the children" as a bullshit excuse that every government uses for censorship. The same thing happened in Australia with Stephen Cun..Conroy and wanting to introduce a governmental level firewall on our internet usage. This current government, is the shittest in Australian existence doesn't like criticism either - too lazy to find links for political shit now.

The idea of a 'free and open internet' is a thing of the past. Even the W3C is bowing to corporate pressure and introducing DRM into standard internet practice.
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rtcvb32: From what i've seen and gathered, it's the local political and government authorities trying to force everyone to comply. There are multiple cases of people who are self sufficient (not reliant on the system) that get attacked. Robin Sperronis in florida suddenly getting evicted from her own home for now using the grid (electricity or water/sewer/gas). Getting thrown in jail for collecting rain water. Turtle Island raid where they look for anything they can to shut down a reservation and teaching school (Most likely because they want the land so they can build something of their own). A 11 yearold cupcake business gets shut down. There's dozens of these.

Off the grid news might be something to look over, gets into more of these stories.
The idea of a 'free and open society' is something that only ever exists on a small scale, as is evidenced by those attempting to 'get off the grid' and live autonomously. The same thing occurs in EVERY single iteration I have seen of autonomous living. It just isn't profitable, and in a capitalist society, the false ideology of "we can all profit" must be maintained by the masses in order for the system to work.

I continually see those living in capitalist societies criticise those in communist, and vice versa. Guys it's the same fucking shit! It is all about control and profit, regardless of the ideology supposedly being adhered to. I have never come across an example of pure capitalism(free market economy) or pure communism(everything owned and shared by the people) in my travels or studies. Both are ideas not realities.

Unfortunately the same shit occurs on a small scale within the communes such as mentioned above. You want to live "freely"? Go into the wild by yourself. You want to live with others? Then agreements need to be made between those in order to so, and then the problems start. We are an insane species well and truly :( Read Dunbar's number for biological reasons for why we struggle en masse Or for a more amusing look at it, read this on Cracked.com
Post edited July 10, 2014 by Tarnicus
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Lexor: I've just found this interesting info.

As GOG requires user's email address for registration purposes, and email address is treated as "personal data", I wonder if GOG has any plans to move its servers to Russia?
GOG probably has to store its user info in Russia, in the US and in China by then. Or was there anything in the law about exclusive storage?
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Lexor: I've just found this interesting info.

As GOG requires user's email address for registration purposes, and email address is treated as "personal data", I wonder if GOG has any plans to move its servers to Russia?
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Trilarion: GOG probably has to store its user info in Russia, in the US and in China by then. Or was there anything in the law about exclusive storage?
Things will change when Poland finally becomes a global power. :D
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Trilarion: GOG probably has to store its user info in Russia, in the US and in China by then. Or was there anything in the law about exclusive storage?
I really doubt this will pass or be embraced. Companies won't have control over personal data, which then makes the Privacy Policy pointless as the over seas they can do whatever they want with the data.

If worse comes to worse, the data stored overseas would be heavily encrypted (we're talking probably 10,240 bit encryption) where encryption/decryption is done site (not server) side so the servers would hold pretty much random garbage without the key, but a local server would be used that wouldn't need to rely on such strong security...
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Elmofongo: How did Neo-Nazism became so Popular in Russia after the staunch Anti-Nazism in the old Soviet Union.

Do the Russian Nazis even read what happened to the Soviets when the German Nazis invaded. Have they not read what happened in Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc.
First: no, they don't read. Education is crap, especially in the social sciences. (Typically, I'd complain about the sorry state of math, but at least people finish school knowing how to count.)

Second, there are several movements within neo-Nazism, and they conceptualize WW2 Nazism in several distinct ways:
- "Hitler was right in that the strongest race should subjugate others, and Slavs turned out to be the strongest";
- "Hitler was right in that the Aryan race should subjugate others, and Slavs also happen to be Aryan, we would've totally joined forces if not for the commies";
- "Hitler was kind of a dick, peoples of the world should live separately on their ancestral lands, this is Slav land, everyone else gtfo".

Multiculturalism was the first thing to go with the Soviet Union. Name an "ethnic" republic within the Russian Federation (Dagestan, Adygea, Mordovia) and even moderate people would say "the immigrants" should leave Russia and go "back home".
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Starmaker: snip
+ Many guys in the Sovjet Union thought that he was right about "the Jews" too and continued catching them, only the term changed from "Konzentrationslager" to "Gulag". But back then many nations didn't like Jews, so that's probably nothing where those two are standing out very much.
Post edited July 10, 2014 by Klumpen0815