I will, if you send it over here! ;)

You do not need PayPal to buy games online. (physically speaking) You can always pay when the game reaches you.
I do agree with your post to some extent , but come on! All this fuss for 5 dollars?

Ever thought about that there are many from the "I buy only(or mostly) used games" fraction that would never buy the game
at full price? Simply because they couldn't afford the price. And calling them greedy without knowing their background is not nice.

The great irony is that the anti-used-games tirade was allegedly against GameStop, and yet GameStop is (a) the worst place to buy used games and (b) likely to be the only place where you can trade used Xbox One games.

I've also never understood why GameStop sells used games at around 5 bucks less than the new price. It's ridiculous, and I find it hard to believe that it sells at this price, but apparently there are enough idiots out there.

It may bot be nice to call them like that , but when you get a game used for 5 dollars less in the first week of its release you kind of deserve it. If they can't afford to buy games like that , why not wait for a price drop? You save even more money. Truth is: People who buy used int he first week actually afford to buy new games , they are just greedy like EA :D

GameStop survives only because of the used game market. They buy a 60$ game for about 40$ or 45$ and sell it for 55$. They make a 10$ or 15$ profit on a re-sold copy.

Nah I meant I overwrote the previous post: I was trying to respond to a second point you made, but didn't want to make a new post about it, but instead of adding it to my previous post, I accidentally overwrote the information already present. :/ Silly Dave.

It is true that sales increase after a sale, but that's not necessarily the sign a game will do well. Take a ridiculously extreme example: the HP tablet that sold so poorly they did a fire sale, after which it sold incredibly well, but did that result in a successor tablet using webOS? Nope. (okay so that's an insanely extreme example, but one should look at total revenue/profit and the timing of that revenue/profit not just number of copies sold).

A used game market gives people the cushion to buy games at full price and early on. Retailers and publishers alike try to maximize their sell-through during this time: It's why companies are pushing pre-orders so much too (which is another aspect I'm not overly fond of in this current market - especially digital pre-orders ...). A healthy used-games market encourages first-sale of games because if you don't like it or only liked to the point of playing it once, you can resell/trade/etc ... and have more money to buy another game at full price. I agree that Gamespot doesn't offer the best deals for either buyer and seller and is a sign of how sick the market is that they are the last bastion of used games (Amazon and eBay only do major business in old used games as far as I can tell). However, if game companies stopped trying to kill the used games market without much evidence that it actually hurts them or offered other, inventive ways to do used games that work better for all concerned (seller, buyer, and company), then I think we could see publishers change their their tune.
It's because they have a virtual stranglehold on the used-market, but its because they're the last man standing that they can be so abusive to their used-games customers. A healthier market would lead to a better deal for both buyer and (re-seller) because Gamestop wouldn't be able to gouge so much.

It's not just the buyers, but the sellers as well, plus see earlier comment about Gamestop and the health of the used games market (and jamyskis points on the same topic).

Not here in Germany they don't. The used games are usually older titles (there are occasionally six or seven newer games on the shelves, but the majority are out-of-print titles). I've never tried trading in a recent title at GameStop myself, but I hear they offer you something ridiculous like €20 for a €60 game before selling it at €55. And these claims of games being sent to a 'refurbishment centre' are bullshit - I saw a game being traded in one morning, it was on the shelf a few hours later when I went in again.

I have no love for GameStop, as they fuck over consumer and publisher alike, but punishing the consumer and the entire gaming retail sector for GameStop's sins is the wrong way to go about it.

Dude , I agree with the option of selling a game , if you don't like it ( to a third party seller or something else) , but I'm against people who only buy used games out of pure greed. As far as your post goes , a healthy used market will never exist outside of retro gaming. This is a business , and like in every business , companies want to make money, even if this means killing a market to them.
Well , I'm not for DRM ( I actually hate it) , but there should be some incentives for buying new. Optional MP is the funniest of the bunch. xD
I remember that Rage sold pretty poorly used because used copies had 6 dungeons locked. xD

Except it is cutting their off their nose to spite their face. Destroying the used games market decreases trust between companies and consumers because it increases the disparity in power over the purchase that already exists. Further it reduces the initial price many are willing to pay for games. In the long run, both will erode revenue and profits for the game industry rather than increase it. In other words, I believe they are only hurting themselves in the long run.
Well ... someone has to buy new for someone else to buy used. :)

The thing is, the used game market on consoles is huge!!! (PC second hand game market is pretty miniscule in comparison.)
Seeing all the trading back at EBGames and the like always made me wonder why that was always the case.
Nah i don't care if consoles go down in flames and burns. Sorry join us PC elitists ;)

Oh sure, I'm all for that. Just as long as they really are bonus incentives. As it stands, these incentives consist of not having your legally purchased game crippled. Personally, I've never really had a problem with bonus DLC with skins and such like being used as an incentive to buy new.

Rage sold pretty poorly, full stop.

LOL :) +1

In my opinion, the greatest value of used and discounted games is with establishing mindshare. A person who might not be willing to drop $70 bucks on a game would certainly consider picking up a cheaper game at $20 or $10. When they buy this cheaper game, they may find the product so enjoyable, that they later purchase future sequels at a higher price point, simply because they want more of this product sooner. They may also tend to talk about the game, spreading their enthusiasm from themselves to other players. Essentially, a niche title that may sell 500,000 units may have a sequel that sells 1,500,000.

I don't see how the issue of used games has anything to do with DRM. If you want a game you buy it, what gives someone the right to have a game just because they paid someone for a physical copy? Yes the disc might be in used condition, but as long as it installs then it's the same game. I'm against DRM as anybody, but used games is just stinginess.

This.

I can name several franchises where I bought the original used and then bought the sequel upon release. One of the most recent is Sports Champions 2 for the PC. Until now I've waited until most of the PlayStation Move games were heavily reduced to €10. In fact, I picked up Sports Champions 1 for €10 used, and enjoyed it so much that I paid the full €30 asking price for Sports Champions 2 upon release.