[P.S. I believe in that Telika guy. He's smart, he'll figure it out. :) ]

Vigilante and bulletproof.

Woot.

Vigilante, Bulletproof, Tracker, Doctor, Follower?

I was going to entertain the possibility of a potential 4rth mafia player being vanilla, but you're not making that easy if you're town.

I am more than curious to examine the scum tactics employed in this game once we have the complete picture btw, they seem pretty crazy so far.

Not doctor, babysitter.
I guess I am supposed to balance Vitek, yogsloth, and Sage (which wasn't supposed to be so towny).
I agree I am over-powered.
Can't complain, though.

Finally back to it then...

I can confirm I was 'shot' by someone last night, but it wasn't harmful.

Amusing that mrkgnao is STILL gunning for me - I really hope you have some sort of win condition that involves me being dead, my friend..;)

I believe mrkgnao is at L-1? Not going to hammer, plenty of time for discussion. Do we really think there is a 4th Mafia? I don't.

Do we have any thoughts on why Krypsyn made a(n) (almost) truthful watcher claim?
[Reminder to self: check how many people had/hadn't claimed at that point.]

This reminds me of something... Someone... And it seems like it wasn't that long ago, either... Like around 2 weeks ago... Who was that? Oh, yeah! Krypsyn! Krypsyn did and said the same things when he got accused.

So, mrkgnao, what you're saying is pretty much this?

Also, I have this to say to you :(



Good thing he's not Town then.

Here's my thoughts on this: I can see mrkgnao's claim being true, at least to some extent (I think he is exaggerating his abilities a bit in order to try and stay alive a little longer).

I'm OK with everything but the vigilante part. So, mrkgnao is powerful still, but so were we. So much investigators and other power roles. And sheer numbers, as well. Sage was a gamble, but if she decided to side with us (like she actually did) the information she would be able to provide us with was going to be extra strength. So yeah, I believe we have some sort of balance in such a setup.

@yogsloth - what is your claimed power again?? Its been weeks, and I'm currently at work, so a) cant go through my notes, and b) cant be seen to spend too long on here...:)

I forgot to share thoughts on Krypsyn.

My point was that I can totally see both Krypsyn and mrkgnao making almost true claims. It's way safer to claim your actual role than to claim another one and risk someone else counter-claiming.

I have a beef with mrk for starting the mrkgnao/Krypsyn/yogsloth questioning pile-on some time ago (and what a surprise, we already have a proven mafia there), so I have no issue with voting him if that is not clear, just want to discuss a bit before that.

Mrk's role seems outlandish. If he's being (semi-)truthful about his role it wouldn't be much of a risk revealing it to town, it's highly unlikely that there would be a town equivalent for that. Krypsyn's role is another matter entirely. We could have very well had a watcher on our side. My current theory is that mafia doesn't have a flavor cop and when Krypsyn saw Hijack claiming town flavor cop, he made an educated guess that the watcher role was unique to the mafia in this game. I can't think of any other explanation at the moment. Unless he's that big of a gambler, I guess.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_24_the_not_ending_soon_war/post1877

I don't understand why jack-of-all-trades (or something similar) can't have an equivalent, but a watcher can. Also, what's so educated about that guess? Krypsyn was a Watcher. He lied about his alignment, not his role.

Watcher is a common role, Jack-of-all-trades is not.

Ah - thankyou. Outlandish role, that!

Fits in with my overnight flavour as well.

As far as I remember mrkgnao claimed last, so the gamble wasn't that risky. Now that I think of it, he may be lying about his role. We already had adalia who tried to survive using fear from automatic retaliation. I can see mrkgnao trying to do the same by seeming way more useful alive than dead.