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Robbeasy: I've been tearing that post apart, and it is oddly worded, but I cant see anything in it. What I dont understand is why you just don't come straight out with it! You were happy to out Town!!

And - should it be some sort of post restriction, then give us a better fecking clue...;o)
Because I spent ages coding it, and I want somebody to figure it out!

1, 3, 5, 7, 9 ... first letters ...
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Robbeasy: I've been tearing that post apart, and it is oddly worded, but I cant see anything in it. What I dont understand is why you just don't come straight out with it! You were happy to out Town!!

And - should it be some sort of post restriction, then give us a better fecking clue...;o)
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nmillar: Because I spent ages coding it, and I want somebody to figure it out!
Ehh, I guess that does seem like a legitimate reason, truthfully.

*turns on GOG giveaway decoding mode*
Hmm trying to read that post comes up with ideas for what it could be only to fall short.

First I thought, he mentions suspect behavior from Vitek twice with a wink smiley, then after reaching that brilliant conclusion for the oddness, remembers that I killed Vitek.. Doh.

Next thought in line was: Itai is also being mentioned twice.. hmm, but nmillar said that it weren't one of his suspects due to him saving it.

The only one I so far can see that nmillar says he has no opinion of is SirPrimalForm, but thats only a hint given the new info, so can't be that either.

There is a reference to Portal, guess thats not of significants

Orryrro is also one he says he has no real suspicion on, but will keep an eye one. Said with strong undergarment... nah. I can't spot it.

Using only big letters have also rendered meaningless results:
O I RBI R I I TRIYDYPSR I ITRVQTIVMON IINSPS AICTVUVIMMI IJGSPFI

Avoiding the big letters in names renders a mess as well:
OWI I RIITIYIYPSITRIMNI'INSP SAITUIMMI II

Only using big letters in player names (that I guess was pointless to check):
RBRDR VQATBViOCVV JGSPF

Okay - Maybe others get more out of this than I. Obviously nmillar is better at leaving hidden stuff than me :D
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Red_Baron: Hmm trying to read that post comes up with ideas for what it could be only to fall short.

First I thought, he mentions suspect behavior from Vitek twice with a wink smiley, then after reaching that brilliant conclusion for the oddness, remembers that I killed Vitek.. Doh.

Next thought in line was: Itai is also being mentioned twice.. hmm, but nmillar said that it weren't one of his suspects due to him saving it.

The only one I so far can see that nmillar says he has no opinion of is SirPrimalForm, but thats only a hint given the new info, so can't be that either.

There is a reference to Portal, guess thats not of significants

Orryrro is also one he says he has no real suspicion on, but will keep an eye one. Said with strong undergarment... nah. I can't spot it.

Using only big letters have also rendered meaningless results:
O I RBI R I I TRIYDYPSR I ITRVQTIVMON IINSPS AICTVUVIMMI IJGSPFI

Avoiding the big letters in names renders a mess as well:
OWI I RIITIYIYPSITRIMNI'INSP SAITUIMMI II

Only using big letters in player names (that I guess was pointless to check):
RBRDR VQATBViOCVV JGSPF

Okay - Maybe others get more out of this than I. Obviously nmillar is better at leaving hidden stuff than me :D
Almost there. First letter of each sentence, odd sentences only. :)

Oh, and I think I may have put an extra R in by mistake. :P
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Robbeasy: I've been tearing that post apart, and it is oddly worded, but I cant see anything in it. What I dont understand is why you just don't come straight out with it! You were happy to out Town!!

And - should it be some sort of post restriction, then give us a better fecking clue...;o)
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nmillar: Because I spent ages coding it, and I want somebody to figure it out!

1, 3, 5, 7, 9 ... first letters ...
Orryyrro? That's where it's leading, but I think I ended up with an extra R in the beginning
Got it !

First letters of 1st sentence, 3rd sentence, 5th sentence, etc etc....

For those that cant be bothered to go work it out - it reads thus...

ORRYYRRO IS SCUM

Now the question is , do we believe him?

Unvote nmillar for now, and Orry - care to comment?? You have been very quiet lately....
I've been suspicious of nmillar for a good while now, but I characteristically don't have any real concrete reasons why (apart from a few points that are important to me, but probably won't hold water with anyone else). But... I've been flip-flopping about Orry for the entire game as well.

So... GRUDGE MATCH!!!

*ding*

ORRY VS NMILLAR! GO!!!
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jefequeso: So... GRUDGE MATCH!!!

*ding*

ORRY VS NMILLAR! GO!!!
I think someone better wake Orry up for that then, he hasn't posted for at least a week.

Oh, yes, I actually forgot to respond to something (stupid me)

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nmillar: You, NFY, Bazilisek and TB have all been guilty of attempting to shut down discussions about multiple mafias, and I have to wonder why that is ... I don't recall Damnation being as dismissive, so please quote it, as I haven't been able to find it.
To be fair, the last time I stuck my head into the multiple mafia argument, there was no second kill that might have been different to be used for proof. As far as the starting flavor as proof, I think it could go either way. At this point, in all honesty? Have fun, I'm not sure what side Baron flips, but at this point I think we at least have something other then one night kill to work with.
Well thanks for others working it out :D
Erhmm Orry eh. Haven't really seen him much in the game and not sure where my opinion
lies in regards of him, but seeing as the post by nmillar is on november the 10th, thats likely a true breadcrum or a very early owl of a scum play.

For me it also adds a bit to it that I myself revealed info, so more inclined to believe others,
I am however not really going to vote as of yet before seeing some reaction from Orryrro.
X would have had to be rather creative with a role like nmillars if its true, or is there some
I am overlooking? Roles that does start out with knowledge about others? Don't know
that much about the different roles out of the ordinary one can have, but then again Rodzaju did have a role I didn't know of as well, with his backup thing, can't be we have two of those? Nah. Anyway as in response and if I have any voted at the moment - Can't remember: unvote
Great, copypasting from my noteblok ruined the format..Posting to say there is no missing words, just unnneeded space :( Hope its still readable.
I see several problems with this. Some of them have been touched upon already, but I will elaborate further.

Firstly, "I'm starting to get the feeling that Rodzaju isn't the only one with information about other people's roles" (#349) -- considering this was day one, and day abilities are highly unusual, I presume you have had this information from the very beginning. So the hint is mighty odd, as is the whole breadcrumbing bit. It's some two weeks (RL time) into the game. The timing is off.

Secondly, "one confirmed scum (which I was hoping to save in case we reached a LYLO situation)" (#1136). There is a massive problem with this. Let me reduce the situation to its basics:
Player A claims player B is scum. There are two possible courses of action now:

1.1. Player A seems trustworthy. Player B is lynched. He flips mafia. Hooray!
1.2. Player A seems trustworthy. Player B is lynched. He flips town. Player A is lynched.
2.1. Player A does not seem trustworthy. Player A is lynched. He flips mafia. Hooray!
2.2. Player A does not seem trustworthy. Player A is lynched. He flips town. Player B is lynched.

See the problem? Both of those can lead to a pretty much guaranteed scum lynch, but they always require a contingency allotment of one day. Coming out with information like this at LYLO is not particularly helpful. Which brings me to the third point:

Thirdly, having a confirmed mafioso in your role PM is highly unorthodox, for very obvious reasons -- it extremely upsets the balance of the game, and I can't really imagine what would you have to give to scum to even it out. More importantly, however, if you actually received a role like that, there is pretty much one course of action -- give out the information as soon as you can. On day one, you would be believed, because it would be inconceivable scum would try something like that. We'd lynch the target you named and confirm your story, and I'm pretty sure someone would protect you in the night, if it's your life you are afraid of. There is absolutely no reason to wait, if you are town.

Also, nmillar, why didn't you cast a single vote for Orry throughout the whole game? Still your "waiting for LYLO" excuse?
Again, I have to agree with Baz here - after a nigths kip on the happenings so far, theres a lot about nmillars claims that dont add up.

I'm going to ask you for your role nmillar. Not rolefishing - I'm asking you straight out. By now you have everyones attention, and have some sort of claimed power role anyway. I'm very curious as to what sort of role has full knowledge of both a Town and Mafia player, from the beginning. I'm struggling to find one that will fit. I think the best way you can help town at this point is a full disclosure, I dont see how hiding behind cryptic posts and small hints help us in any way now.

As Baz has already said , the timing of your original posts is way off - and your 'saving for LYLO' does not wash - at all.

MOD - has Orry been prodded lately? We really are struggling with this if he isn't around to talk about it!
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Robbeasy: I'm going to ask you for your role nmillar.
I work for the Criminal Records Bureau of Idyllia, and have been assigned to work on the Dimitar Cade case (our beloved President). At the beginning of Day 1 (i.e. in my role PM), Orryyrro's criminal record file was left on my desk, which links him to The Shattered Hand mafia.

Each morning, I get another criminal record file left on my desk. I don't get to choose whose I get as this is determined by something I'm not allowed to mention.

Night 1: Damnation - Gabriel Bortez. Runs a cafe. His only criminal activity was possession of cannabis 5 years ago.

Night 2: xxxxxxxx - xxxxxxxx. No criminal record.
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Robbeasy: MOD - has Orry been prodded lately? We really are struggling with this if he isn't around to talk about it!
He was pmed a couple of days ago, He may need a sub
Hmmmmmm, taking this all into consideration...I think saving the information for LyLo is pretty damn dangerous, that kind of info should be shared ASAP.

If nmillar is lying: Then I'd hesitate to clear either Orry or Damnation, since one was marked as town, the other as scum. It's a real WIFOM moment that would keep us guessing.

If nmillar is telling the truth: Then it's in our best interest to lynch Orry, who has also been lurking quite a big deal.

Hmmmm, I guess, our best interest is to lynch Orry? It's the easiest way to at least get us started. If he's scum, then we're one down, if he's not, then nmillar's next on the block.

unvote whoever, vote Orryyrro