OK - Here comes the reply to Baz - prepare for text attack
I'm going to take the specific points where he targets me -
bazilisek: 2) Some people, it seems, do not bother to read or remember, possibly deliberately so. When discussing my protection of jefequeso, I offered four reasons for doing so (#849). How odd that Robbeasy (#853) and nmillar (#887) both pick up only on the last one and start treating it as gospel truth. And why, when talking about this protection of mine, doesn't almost anyone ever mention the fact that I'm also a roleblocker? Because if you want to talk statistics, this effectively doubles my chances to stop a nightkill, you know.
The first is the best here - accusations of taking only part of what he said, heres my post in full that he refers to ...
Robbeasy: Blimey - more info freely offered! I'm hoping this is definitely in Towns best interests?
As Baz says, look at Rod and what happened....
@ Baz - that is indeed solid thinking, and a good choice in many ways - I salute you for that!
Providing you're telling the truth of course..;o)
Be interesting to see what happens with Jefe tonight - have you just put off the suicide for one night, do you think, or stopped it completely?
I'm actually complimenting Baz here, and he chooses to focus entirely on a smallest part of my post, which doesnt really pick up that much at all. So basically he's doing exactly what I've been mentioned for - just to get a fix or association with Twilight? So he can attack me further on???
next - he does indeed go on the offensive
bazilisek: First came Robbeasy (#835), wondering why people are willing to believe I am town (notice it's the same Robbeasy who kept saying the reason for the Rodzaju lynch was to confirm his information). He developed it further in #843 and himself retracted it in #863
Yes I did - because at the time I thought there was only confirmation of your ROLE. Only after a big reread did I come across the part where Rod confirmed you as Town Doctor - which is why I fully retracted it. The lynch DID give us the info, so why do you question me even after I fully retract it? Dont understand this, unless you're somehow trying to link me to Twilight, but I cant see the link either..
And this 'link' you also bring to the surface in the next bit , with the hunt on Jefe. My reasoning for the hunt on Jefe were perfectly sound, the last thing on my mind was the 'classic scum play' of trying to ignore you and go after Jefe.
I do believe Baz is town, but don't get where he has this agenda against me, or the attempts to link me and Twilight together.
As for Twilight himself - yes the pushing of Baz is scummy. But as Damnation has said - people should be pushed when information is given out for no reason. Its happened a lot in this game -
Rod, with the name dropping. Mad, no reasons, got him rightfully lynched in my book, whether town or not.
Baz, with the Doctor claim out of absolutely nowhere - STILL not had a satisfactory answer for this one, if you hadn't been confirmed by Rod it would still be a problem
Red, with his claim of the nightkill.
There was no pressure on any of these players to give out the information. I went after and pressured Red after his claim because That is what you have to do - its the only way to smoke out the Mafia! After much discussion I also think Red is telling the truth, mainly because it would be the maddest of all mad ploys for a Mafia person to actually claim the Nightkill. But then again, if you could make the explanation stick, what a brilliant ploy !!
So personally I'm at a bit of a loss myself - my biggest suspect Would still be baz, if not for the incontravertible evidence from Rod and his subsequent lynch. So I have to conclude he is Town. Jefe less so - although his role is confirmed, the alignment isnt. Red, I'm 90% sure his claim is correct, and is therefore Town as well, although he has been inconsistent with his posts
I can see where the suspicion of Twilight is coming from , but I again point at what I've just said - we're supposed to go after people who give out information unnecessarily! To lambast someone for it and go after them DOES seem a little OMGUS. I'll be paying attention to the rest of your reasoning though, Baz.
nmillar and the multiple mafia - dont see anything inherently scummy about it, tbh. The flavour is there at the start, and crucially nmillar hasn't based any accusations or theories on it.
Cruward - keeps disappearing , and doesn't have a lot to say. If I was pushed, he would be my favourite for lynch at the moment, as he is bringing nothing useful to the table and its heading to the time when we all need to be on it.
Damnation - seemed convinced of NFy's guilt ealier, but never really expanded on why. Not like you...
Others - not really got a deal..
I'll
Unvote Sir now as it was only a silly prod to get him to stop lurking. Although he has been , quite a lot. Not a deal of scumhunting coming from over there at all, in fact...
Hell - if I go back to the logic of Day2 and look at today objectively, I would say the lynch of Jefe or Red would give us the most information, and be of most help to us today. But I'm loathe to lead that sort of lynch reasoning again.
feck it -
Vote Cruward - I dont like the flitting in and out, I dont like the fact theres always a litle reason for it, when basically its just lurking in fear of saying something he shouldn't, i reckon.
