Vestin. Have you ever played JA2? Hell, have you ever played any non-fantasy turn-based strategy (since the fantasy ones tend to have magic spells)? They really AREN'T complex affairs. You are essentially applying the generic "console suck, PC better" arguments of precision and lack of buttons to games that really had neither. Those arguments are (mostly) made with FPSes in mind, where those things allegedly matter (people tend to forget that, if you even the playing field, they stop mattering). But for turn-based games with fairly simple gameplay (and even simpler interfaces), it isn't an issue.
Hell, Fallout was almost entirely mouse-based. I don't think I ever used a single keyboard shortcut. I DID use the bottom-half of the screen's menu/gui, but (for the most part), most of those can be integrated into context-sensitive menus (which generally make things seem a lot less daunting, and a lot more user-friendly).

Holy cow!
Church [yeah, Rob, You'll always be a Church guy] vs Philosophy! Capcom should make a game about that! :>
Just take it outside the Jagged Alliance forum, for being jagged is one, but being allied is crucial. ;)

Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem and Tactics Ogre want to say hello. Some of the best turn based games imo.

Ah yes, hello two platform exclusive games that were designed from the ground up with that platform in mind. Hello game that never made it to PC or any other non-console platform thus was only ever played with largely similar controllers.
Are you trying to prove my point for me, or was there some relevance I'm missing here?

Why, no - I've only played Tetris my entire life. What are those "strategy games" you speak of ;) ?
What you're trying to say is pretty much "Any simple enough problem can be solved with a hammer". Maybe - that still doesn't mean there aren't better solutions and more complex problems.
Even if you can somehow find a way to make the game designed for one interface work on something completely different... it's not likely to be as nice of an experience.
Not really, I was referring to games in general.
Lulz.
That's why we have... the Special Olympics.
Simple, yet still different
Orly ? No <space> for /end turn/, no <enter> for /end combat/, <shift> for running ? No 1 for sneak, 2 for lockpick, etc ?
You keep your console hands off my Fallouts ;P !
I don't know, man... Check out our football match ;P.

And with that, I see no more need to bother trying to discuss things with you. If anyone else wants to pick up the convo, feel free.

Actually they were on handhelds and consoles which are two completely different design philosophies. Did well on both just like a TBS from PC would do well on a console if they did it right even though the PC and console systems have different design philosophies.

The handheld versions were designed for the handhelds from the ground up though, right? They couldn't make direct ports for systems with worse controls, processing power and screen resolution.
Would a PC port of Jagged Alliance 2 get a completely new version? Or would it be a 360 port with mouse support? The precedent that has been set for years now tells us it's the latter.
Sure, in theory they could completely redesign it for both platforms. After all, that's what Ubisoft did with the PC versions of Advanced Warfighter and it worked. They were a lot better than the console versions too. But that's one example amidst hundreds of counter examples of the PC getting rushed, lazy ports.
So it's hypothetically possible. But realistically extremely unlikely.
And that really is all I have to say about a game that we don't know the first thing about other than what it's based on.

Ah the wishlist, but that wasn't spamming, actually. I just included the games I'd like to GOG to get futurely.
There's people who add Blizzard games and even the Half-Life series, so why not add a Steamworks-tied game... Who knows, if there will be a way to un-tie them? ;)

Well, You do add quite a few fresh titles. May it lead to a wishlist cleanup. ;D
There are also people who listen to Lady Gaga and praise alternative rock for it's supposed freshness and complexity. Some people are not worth following. ;)
On the other hand, it's still Good Old Games, not Disappointing Sequels. ;>
Let's hope JA2:R and JA3 won't be one of those.

Oh C'mon, I'm not like that... and I don't like Lady Gaga but gimme rock 'n roll any day.
Even if the sequels are disappointing, I like having them all in one place (hint: at GOG). I like having the first to the last title, of X-COM, of Deus Ex, of King's Quest, of Ultima series, etc. When years pass and the sequels get "bad old sequels", they can be added to the good ones already sitting here.
And yes, and I will buy Empire Earth 3, someday. :p
Agreed. :)
But if they also make it for consoles, bad news... :(

I don't see consoles proving to be an issue. It's not like the remake of JA2 looks all that massively graphically advanced, and since the games are turn based they would actually be controllable with a control pad...you wouldn't be rushing around trying to run an RTS with a console interface.

Actually, i was referring to the Blizz/Valve voters. :D
It's more or less Gaga and The White Stripes... [yea, i'm evil, sorry]
Well, true, but the wound of disappointment left by Supreme Commander 2 still bleeds.
Time does not heal, mods do.
Well, they can make a JA2 with refreshed GFX/SFX and AI anytime, as long as it supports three things, mouse, keyboard, and the 1.13 mod.
JA on consoles could be fun...
to see..
...from a distance..
in a bad dream...
...'hung from a tree, shot, and ran over by a Buick'... :D
JA on consoles may be a weird little joke.. Like Alien 4: a bad movie, but after a horror, a sci-fi thriller, and an awesome drama, a slapstick comedy was the only thing missing. ;>
But really, they're SERIOUS about a console version?
Yeah, inventory and team management are just made for a pad..
Oh wait.. ;)
Face it, not enough buttons. Either it'll come out screwed up, or simplified, and simplified, we don't want.;)
Launch JA2, and ig You don't have it, do Yourself the favor. Play the game up to the point where You have 2 squads, in two localizations, and start imagining the pad gameplay.
Not saying it could not be done, just pointing out the pointlessness of such attempts. ;)

It's not about the graphics, it's about the complexity of the gameplay being lowered or not.
"Reloaded will therefore have a contemporary 3D graphic syle in an isometric view, the user interface will be totally redesigned and an extensive tutorial will ease the player into the complex game rules system."
The press release doesn't mention platforms and so I was mainly joking about, not speculating, ok?
I know you were. I'm just messing with you. :p
C'mon, now bashing The White Stripes. Guess you've never heard The Raconteurs? It's a bit better.
My condolences for your disappointment with SupCom 2, then. That's why you need the gold edition of the first, here.

Word from the (un)wise: Drop that topic. A lot of PC gamers are going to inherently think games can't work on consoles and that consoles will ruin everything, even when the genre is actually one that has probably thrived more on consoles than PCs over the past ten years.