Votecount:

3 - Robbeasy (Muttly, Itai.sharim, Pazzer)
3 – Nmillar (Vitek, Zchinque, JoeSapphire)
2 - Zchinque (Orry, Peanutbrittle)
2 – Stuart9001 (Crazybear, Red Baron)
1 - Crazybear (Stuart)
1 - Muttly13 (Nmillar)

Not voting: Robbeasy

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is 11pm GMT 6 January.

If you consider the enitre game "during christmas season" then so be it. I did not based on both the replies to the mods question and the fact we started a week before christmas and no one had any problem yammering on during RVS when no one would really expect much to be said.

I have also stated I dont really feel lurking is a super method of lynching, but as its day 1 thats about all we have. Find me a better target other than "Muttlys scummy because he voted for a lurker" and I would be happy to give it a listen.

Sorry, I am busy today.

I am against lynch of Zchinque, Red Baron and Peanut. Others I am either pro-lynch or indifferent and need more reading.

It's not the fact that you're voting for a lurker; it's the fact that you're pushing it so hard when we still have 4 real life days left.

Mmmm Vitek in post #274 says, ...If we are to choose someone almost randomly on day 1 I think it should be someone who is lurking...

Today he saying he is against the lynching of Red Baron and Zchinque, neither of whom can be said to have been active participants in the game so far.

Very interesting. Care to explain, when you are not busy that is.

@Nmillar: In what way do you see me over-reacting, and also, why do you find me scummiest? Is it because I have actually posted things so you think you can get a read on me?

@Rob: Can I ask how you can unvote Zchinque in the same post as criticising lurker voting, when Zchinque is at the very least complicit in this. calling for any voting at all. Allow me to quote from post #243.

"No, a lurker lynch is more or less forced upon us by the mod and most of the players lurking. People don't seem to be interested in finding scum, they're only interested in not sticking their necks out."

It reads like a call to lynch lurkers to me. So here we have what by your definition is "mafia trying to start a bandwagon" and you unvoted him at the same time as saying this. Care to comment?

There's a prime example in post 279.The first line in fact:

With 2 votes, you're not really under any pressure at the moment, so why rise to Crazybear's baiting?

Think the time of year has had a big impact on this game and it feels like it's not really got started yet. Still unsure about what I see as Robbeasy and Nmillar lurking. But think it's more likely they were busy with Christmas stuff.

So unvote Robbeasy.

My vote was placed on him because he applied a silencing tactic and placed his vote on one of the few players who were actually trying to create content. A tactic if I might add, Rob himself has found inappropriate in a later post (#266). Now, on post #285 he claims he had been drinking, and he was tired and so on. Whether this was the reason for the flawed logic that led him to vote for Zchinque, is still a mystery to me. However, this was still flawed logic and bad play (in my opinion), hence my vote remains on him.

@vitek - Zchinque and Peanut I can relate to, but why Red Baron?

@stuart - I know this (#270) was not addressed to me but I'll answer anyhow. Zchinque actions to move the game along does not make him pro-town nor anti-town. However, I have noticed that the more a player is active the more attention he gets. On day 1, everyone should get attention.
Plus, are you voting CrazyBear for lurking? Did I get the reason right?

I have posted nothing but responses to your concerns since the deadline extension. I for one do not define that as pushing, much less pushing hard. Are you just shooting from the hip on these responses or is this a calculated attempt to mislead? At first I thought your vote for me was simply quick draw response to being called out on something you felt was unfair. Now I am wondering if its something more in depth.

@itai.sharim: I don't mind answering questions from anyone about any of my post so, no problem, It's not just the lurking, and I guess this is partially my response to Nmillar too, it the whole CrazyBear experience, the lack of posts, the one track mind "Stuart is suspicious" which excludes any other input to the game, the total lack of interaction with any other players. It leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions, he is either town but is so inactive in any real way he may as well be mafia (because he isn't in any way helping the town is he?). Or he is mafia and trying to stay under the radar and not be noticed. The decider for me to vote was the questionable reason for not posting, it just doesn't seem to add up. Claiming to be partying so no posting at a time when most people are partying? He lives in the US (according to the writing under his avatar, i accept you can change this) so he posted that at between 8pm and 11pm on new years eve?

@Nmillar: I agree this seems a little ranty but I am a little fed up of CrazyBear's pursuit of me on no evidence, I'm not exagerating (as of 1/1/12 there are 16 posts 10 mention Stuart is suspicious, 5 are not related to gameplay and the #63 that I initially questioned) , look back over his posts, they contain little or no evidence, analysis or anything. I really don't see myself as rising to bait, I have to ask who is most anti-town, and I feel that, in the absence of any strong FoS which I don't think anyone has at this time, someone who is not contributing in any way must be regarded as most anti-town.

If I come across in this way at other times then I guess that is how you are always going to perceive my mannerisms, writing style, etc...

I was referring to the Christmas period, and stated as such in an earlier post. You're still avoiding the question: do you have any other reason than lurking for your current vote?

Good response, and you can consider yourself off my suspects list for now. The only criticism I would make is that we can't really apply the usual lurking=mafia theory here due to the Christmas period.

Having said that, however, now that the Christmas period is over, people should be active again and any continuing lurkers should now be singled out.

Man, you make misdirection an art form dont you? You never asked me a question. As you said "stated as such in an earlier post", not questioned. Yes, as I mentined in each post regarding Robo, its his lack of any dicernable information on his thoughts in the few posts he actaully made. Pretty much the same for you but as I mentioned, at least you responded to Z at some point regarding his question on Itai.

What is it you want to hear?
My mind is like an open book.

Seems an odd choice, given how much flak I constantly receive. ^^

And thanks for joining us!
(quote slightly edited by me, to get a "real" quote from #243. Hopefully it worked.)

Why would you misrepresent me by taking that quote out of the very relevant context - as a reply to a post by yourself?

Now allow me to quote the same part of my #243 in context:

The talk of lynching lurkers was something I took from your post (which is not to say that you called for or advocated it). I did not "call for" a lurker lynch, but I acknowledged that with the general activity level and the deadline - this was before the short three-day extension, mind - another venue seemed unlikely. Heck, I'd say that the last part of the quote should reveal that I was not particularly fond of the idea of lynching a random lurker.

You seem to be the only the one to criticize my level of activity - I've been criticized for lots, but not that - and you've done so several times. As such, I'd like to ask who you find to have been "active participants in the game so far".

As an aside, I would be very happy if you could figure out how the quote system works on these forums. I often use the little arrows at the end of a quote to go back and read the quoted post in full and in context, and your quotes are at times a little hard to follow. Mayhap make a different thread for testing and messing about with quotes until you get it?

Mind explaining or backing up how I don't seem to care who is lynched? The only thing I can think of is this:

(and I just noticed, that should of course read "who or why"...)

which is, as it says, a call for votes, not a quick and dirty lynch. We needed to establish who the top targets were, which was impossible when less than half the players in the game had a vote on anyone. Lynching people you think is scum is a good way to find possible scum. Lynching people because you don't like their playstyle is not.

Notes are what mafia claim to refer to when they try to look town. At least that's the only time I've claimed to "look over my notes".
(I have tried to take notes in a couple of games, but it doesn't really work for me.)

I think Red_Baron is town because of meta. I want to lynch lurkers but not the lurkers that I think are town.
You tried to select muttly as main target among all lurkers and when he defended himself you are now doing the same to Zchinque even when he can't certainly be qualified as main lurker.
Are you trying to find suitable target for mislynch?