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CymTyr: One of the system requirements for Steam, as far as I know, is a permanent internet connection
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OldFatGuy: Could you please point me to the place on Steam's website where this is made crystal clear??
Thanks.

Aug 17, attempted two games (The Last Remnant - Mars War Logs) and both worked.
I don't have it handy. I just checked my l4d2 box, and sure enough, it does not say internet is required. I admit I could be wrong, which is why I said, "as far as I know".
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HereForTheBeer: I agree with you, but discussions like this - wherein one posits "If the people only knew..." then they would refuse to purchase the license - always bring me back to that classic screenshot of a COD boycott:
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To wit: they don't really care so long as they get to play, and since most regular customers these days don't have major connectivity issues then they don't see it as a problem regardless of how they independently feel about "renting" versus "buying". So long as your connection is good then "rent" and "buy" have the same practical meaning; this is the case for most purchasers. Since the target market is "most purchasers"...

You see where this is going.
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Stevedog13: One thing to remember about about these screenshots is that Steam did make an offer in compromise to those who vowed to boycott. The players were worried that the Steam servers would be overloaded with the release of the new title and demanded dedicated servers so that their multiplayer experience would not suffer. Many stated that they would boycott the game unless these demands were met. Steam countered by saying they would not dedicate any existing servers to a single game but would significantly expand the total number of servers in anticipation of the increased activity. This solution, while not following the specifics of the demand, did bring about the same result. Players could rest assured that they could play COD, as well as any other multiplayer game, without fear of a server overload. By the time the game was released, those who called for the boycott no longer had a grievance. Now whether or not these players would have broken the boycott anyway is unknown. I don't disagree with your premise per se, I just don't feel these images are a fair representation.
Okie dokie. Leave the image bit out and it's still a decent representation of the customer base: some may "care", but in the end even most of them care MORE about playing. So if the 14-day-offline problem never hits them and their stable connections, it's going to be tough to convince them to make a case about it. As an extension, and as mentioned previous, they will then not care in a practical way whether it's a purchase or a rental. "Get a better internet connection" will be the response from most.

For the same reason, I don't make a big deal about getting locked out of prior purchases by declining to accept the new EULA terms. It has to be that the overwhelming majority doesn't blink over these things, so I'm not going to bother repeating my case: "Dude - just click 'I Accept' and get on with playing!". No, but thanks. Me and my wallet will go play elsewhere, and the juggernaut will never notice - nor care - that there is one less customer scratching its back.
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Lifthrasil: You misunderstood me completely. I am not OK with renting. That's why I'm not a Steam customer. I am just pointing out that they have covered their scam legally from all angles. And they will do everything but 'own up and be honest about the renting thing'. Treating their customers honestly would go against everything Steam stands for. So no chance. Steam has been created around the idea that customers can't be trusted. That's what DRM is about. So it's only logical that they will not give up their control completely. Sure, if the label 'offline mode' sells more games, they will sell that label. But they won't relinquish their control over their customers completely. That's why the offline mode really is a sneaky 'sometimes online' mode. Or in other words: you get what you sign up for. Steam, Origin and Uplay are known not to care about their customers rights. If you don't like that, stop using Steam. A decrease in income is the only language that will actually reach big publishers. Complaining and even big Shitstorms have been shown again and again not to have any impact on sales numbers and so they have no effect. Unfortunately a big majority keeps buying and thereby blindly accepting all questionable practices of the big publishers.
My apologies for any misunderstanding.
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Pheace: Assuming there's an online requirement to be online every 2 weeks or so, this statement still only makes as much a sense as saying "Buy" games to "rent as long as you have a working computer".
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OneFiercePuppy: Well there's your problem right there; you. You're too lazy to educate yourself. You have no idea if what you're ranting about is even an actual problem. And you'd never know if the EULA is easy to understand (it is) because you'd never look at it.

We get it, you don't like Steam. Go do what everyone else does and buy physical copies or download cracks. Preferably the first; put your money where your mouth is, and you can effect change. But right now your mouth and arse are dangerously collocated.
Per a Steam Staff Member..

Offline Mode is designed to be indefinite.
That's a month ago. Instead of making it crystal clear that they are renting or that an internet connection is always required they are instead at every point making it crystal clear that they want BOTH POOLS of consumers, those that are only willing to purchase and those that are perfectly okay with any and all DRM whatsoever.

To Pheace, I just don't see how one can assume there's such a requirement when they make it crystal clear at every opportunity that it's simply not the case. And please understand my next statement is NOT directed at you because your statement just makes a statement based on an assumption, an assumption that I don't get how one can make.

To the second poster, thanks for making my point about Steam fanboys. Were you too lazy to check out the links available in this thread to see that Steam THEMSELVES claim that they aren't renting, and that no full time internet connection is required. It is required only to initially register the game.

But you just kneejerk react that's it's my fault, Steam can do NO wrong, yadda yadda yadda and all sorts of nonsense coming out of your ass because hopefully your mouth knows better.

Please ignore any and all of my threads/comments and I will most happily and gleefully do the same in return as I'm sick and tired of the fanboy stupidity.

ADDED: 8/19 - Tried two more games today (Of Orcs and Men - Call of Duty BO II - Zombies) both worked flawlessly. I know it's only been a few days and I'm probably nucking futs but I can't help but hope again. One of the updates that occurred when I hooked back up was a Steam update, so that has me hoping. As I've said numerous times, not being able to play games one OWNS is my ONLY complaint against Steam. Any DRM that results in that is unacceptable, and should be by all gamers for the good of all gamers.

ADDED 8/20 - Two more games today (Fallout NV - Skyrim) worked flawlessly. So far so good.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by OldFatGuy
GREAT NEWS!!!!

It's now been three weeks, THREE WEEKS, and I'm still able to play games.

This could be a game changer for me (pun intended).
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OldFatGuy: GREAT NEWS!!!!

It's now been three weeks, THREE WEEKS, and I'm still able to play games.

This could be a game changer for me (pun intended).
Let's hope that this time it also stays that way. After all, the "two week trigger" apparently came a few months ago (first reports from April or May, I think), before which the offline mode worked, more or less.

That's what I love about DRM-free gaming: the publisher nor the service provider can't change it afterwards (intentionally or unintentionally, whatever) how I can access and play the game I have obtained from them. I don't wake up one morning seeing that all the lovely GOG game installers I have on my HDD are requiring online authentication, or have a two week offline trigger. I have the control.
Post edited September 04, 2013 by timppu