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Posted June 02, 2010
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DarthKaal: 2,49€ each game, and 29,39€ the pack?
Wow, this is pretty expensive.
When you consider that the Virtual Console version has been selling for £5.60 a pop, it's not *that* bad. Although the bundle's value ain't that great...
Posted June 02, 2010
By the way, before buying the SEGA games, keep in mind you can probably buy the ultimate collection for the PS3 and Xbox 360 with 40 megagrive games and some on the previous console such as the first Phantasy Star, for 10 to 20 pound.
Post edited June 02, 2010 by DavidGil
Posted June 02, 2010
Heh, wondering how much indie code they stole to create their "own" emulator... you know, it's an historical fact that people behind the industry don't give a fuck (or sue, for the matter) about emulators until they can make money on 'em....
Furthermore, the Motorola 68000 microchip on which Genesis is based is one of the most known and software re-engineered CPU cores out there (MAME, Gens and many, many more), so....
Post edited June 02, 2010 by KingofGnG
Posted June 02, 2010
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cogadh: I'm in the middle of buying Comix Zone right now, I'll let you know what I find out.

Have you tried installing it already? Is the emulated ROM freely accessible, or is it hardcoded somewhere?
Posted June 02, 2010
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Elwin: Have you tried installing it already? Is the emulated ROM freely accessible, or is it hardcoded somewhere?

Huh, that's a very good question, indeed....
Posted June 02, 2010
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fisk0: OK, I just got a surprise when I launched steam. The entire list of "New games on Steam" was SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive games.
So, I've got a couple of questions, have anybody tried buying the games, and perhaps seen what kind of emulator they use? Is it some SEGA in house thing or one of the common open source emulators. Either way, do they play well, are they configurable (like, can you set up the controls to match your preferred PC gamepad, can you set resolution/filters and that stuff). One of the reasons I ask that here is that it would seem Steam has no forum for these games yet.
Also, do you think this could mean we'll get to see more emulated classic games on PC, and hopefully also on GOG?
The SEGA library isn't bad, but I'd be even happier to see some of the classic home computers getting their libraries available on GOG, Steam and other places.

Well, SEGA has some experience with emulating their games, seeing this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Smash_Pack
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phanboy4: Yeah, the emulator they ship with is servicable.
I plan to buy the ones I want that I don't already have, get the ROMs from somewhere, and play it on my emulator of choice.
Not legal, but IMHO ethical. Already bought Vectorman.

Under U.S. laws, this might qualify as fair use as long as you own an original.
Post edited June 02, 2010 by Protoss
Posted June 02, 2010
There's a considerable lack of Sonic in that package!
Posted June 02, 2010
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DarthKaal: 2,49€ each game, and 29,39€ the pack?
Wow, this is pretty expensive.
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DelusionsBeta: When you consider that the Virtual Console version has been selling for �5.60 a pop, it's not *that* bad. Although the bundle's value ain't that great...

Well, I was not talking about the virtual console. But, of course you're right, vc games are trruly expensive, at least for what they are, and considering how many people use free emulators and *illegal* roms. Let's say that all those selling platforms will not change this situation...
Posted June 02, 2010
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cogadh: I'm in the middle of buying Comix Zone right now, I'll let you know what I find out.
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Elwin: Have you tried installing it already? Is the emulated ROM freely accessible, or is it hardcoded somewhere?

It looks like the rom is in an encrypted .pak archive. Can anyone recommend a utility that is good at reading from .pak files?
Posted June 02, 2010
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fisk0: OK, I just got a surprise when I launched steam. The entire list of "New games on Steam" was SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive games.
So, I've got a couple of questions, have anybody tried buying the games, and perhaps seen what kind of emulator they use? Is it some SEGA in house thing or one of the common open source emulators. Either way, do they play well, are they configurable (like, can you set up the controls to match your preferred PC gamepad, can you set resolution/filters and that stuff). One of the reasons I ask that here is that it would seem Steam has no forum for these games yet.
Also, do you think this could mean we'll get to see more emulated classic games on PC, and hopefully also on GOG?
The SEGA library isn't bad, but I'd be even happier to see some of the classic home computers getting their libraries available on GOG, Steam and other places.
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Protoss: Well, SEGA has some experience with emulating their games, seeing this:
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Smash_Pack
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Smash_Pack[quote_6[/url]]
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phanboy4: Yeah, the emulator they ship with is servicable.
I plan to buy the ones I want that I don't already have, get the ROMs from somewhere, and play it on my emulator of choice.
Not legal, but IMHO ethical. Already bought Vectorman.

Under U.S. laws, this might qualify as fair use as long as you own an original.

I thought it only was legal if you made the ROM yourself.
Posted June 02, 2010
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Protoss: Well, SEGA has some experience with emulating their games, seeing this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Smash_Pack
Under U.S. laws, this might qualify as fair use as long as you own an original.
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evilguy12: I thought it only was legal if you made the ROM yourself.

The legality of ROMs is one of the greyest and least understood things out there.
From my understanding:
If you own the cartridge, you can make a single copy for back-up purposes. But in making the copy, you will be violating the laws related to the copy protection.
That being said, most people just get their information from ROM sites. The same kinds that think having a "If you are going to sue us, leave now" splash page means something.
Posted June 02, 2010
http://www.amazon.com/Sega-Genesis-Collection-Playstation-2/dp/B000HQBZOM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1275498254&sr=8-2
Posted June 02, 2010
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bansama: I'll probably just use my Bluecoins from GamersGate and get a couple that way. Shame they didn't release any of the Phantasy Star games or the Bare Knuckle (Streets of Rage) ones. Those are probably the only SEGA games likely to get a release these days that I'd be willing to part cash for.

The Genesis collection available on the Xbox 360 and PS3 has all of those games on it. And it's much cheaper than buying them on Steam.
I bet that all of the Genesis games available on Gametap will end up being available on Steam. So go there to see what could be coming up in the future.
Posted June 02, 2010
direct2drive added sega games just now, for $2.95, not $2.99. With a drm-free logo and worldwide...
Posted June 02, 2010
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Gundato: From my understanding:
If you own the cartridge, you can make a single copy for back-up purposes. But in making the copy, you will be violating the laws related to the copy protection.

It's only a problem if you need to actually break the copy protection in order to make and/or play the copy, which is not the case here (the Mega Drive didn't have that sort of copy protection).
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