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That reminds me. Are hotel maids frequently used for dirty old man sex in other countries? Our maids in NYC are suffering from a little culture shock.
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Bulletmagn3t: 1. I'll say that blonde jokes are an unacceptable (but accepted) evil of society.
They affect blonde women exactly in the way racial stereotypes affect minorities.


2. It doesn't matter whether I buy the game or not: rape victims still have to share society with those who believe rape is no big deal.
DNF's brand of humor only emboldens them.

3. Murder isn't minimized as much and as often as rape. That is why people are less touchy about it.

4. I have already told you that many do.
Countless mainstream games set up a moral framework where killing is the "right" answer. So you can't dismiss this so easily.

5. I never claimed that this is as bad a IRL rape, that's another straw-man.

6. Why should I care about what 4chan does?

7. You can't enjoy the game until I stop criticizing it? Don't worry then, I won't press this matter further.

And I'm aware of the Aliens reference. But in those movies, facehugging (which has blatant sexual undertones) is presented as an absolutely horrible experience. In DNF is used to set up tired cliches.
1. I agree it's accepted, but comparing it to racism against minorities that were often hurt or killed because of their race? It's not even close.....

2. Again DNF doesn't cause rape, or embolden rapists. If you believe that then you'd also have to believe that video games make people kill people.

3. Murder is minimised just as often if not more......and praised in ways like sanctioned murder(executions/wars/etc) & others.

4. As long as it's just a way of finishing the game I see no harm in it and see no major influence of it causing people to commit these acts irl. And for those that can't distinguish fantasy from reality...maybe they shouldn't be allowed near games at all.

5. You don't have to claim it for me to see your subtle intentions.

6. Nice, you sidestepped my reasonable answer and stuck to the 4chan part, which was a casual aside and not the meat of that reply.

7. Never said I couldn't...I was making a general statement. Now who's using straw men?

8. Just because the game sets it up bad doesn't mean the essence of what the scene was trying to convey isn't integral to the story.
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predcon: They do not. Where do you live that blonde women are discriminated against so vehemently? "Oh look at this, Mr. Schwarz, there's a blonde Harvard business school graduate applying for this executive position. That blonde obviously whizzed through school on her good looks and enormous breasts, so lets pass her up." Yeah, that happens.

I live in the Deep frickin' South, where ignorance is King, and haven't heard a single Pollack joke (my surname is Lithuanian, but most can't tell the difference) in my twenty years here. People are a little more progressive, and a little less sensitive than you think. Welcome to the 21st Century.
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Bulletmagn3t: Who said anything about "vehemently"? I live in Italy, the country of Silvio friggin' Berlusconi, and these kind of insinuations are made all the time.

Even where minorities aren't actively persecuted, stereotypes color people's judgments and expectations.

The 21st Century hasn't magically cured anything.
Don't like something that isn't really harming you? Tough titties. Until I see blondes being killed or beaten for being blonde then your whole analogy falls apart.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by GameRager
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GameRager: Oh, BulletMagn3t, you have brought to light my secret. I am a rapist!
See? Its done.
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GameRager: Oh, BulletMagn3t, you have brought to light my secret. I am a rapist!
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Tulivu: See? Its done.
OMG you're right! I must turn myself in at once.........I'm so ashamed.

One thing: Is it ok if I have one for the road? Seeing as i'll be away for a long time and all?

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Game is here....gonna unpack and photo it soon.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by GameRager
Sentenced to 9 hours of DNF. REPENT!
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Arteveld: Sentenced to 9 hours of DNF. REPENT!
I am trying to figure otu how to use my dynex webcam to take photos as I don't have the software cd that came with it which installed a program to manage pics/etc with it.
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Arteveld: Sentenced to 9 hours of DNF. REPENT!
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GameRager: I am trying to figure otu how to use my dynex webcam to take photos as I don't have the software cd that came with it which installed a program to manage pics/etc with it.
Did you check the Dynex website for drivers?
Something posessed me to go to the store on opening day at 10am to see Duke. Was anyone waiting outside for the store to open? Nope. Was the game clearly displayed as soon as you walked in? Nope. A couple people took a copy once we found the game. I grabbed the PC game, looked at it, put it down, came back later and looked at it again but not even the chance to buy it with exclusive steelbook packaging swayed me. I put it down and left.

They of course didn't have Alice so I go to Bestbuy. Even worse. The game isn't on display anywhere. No Alice either. So no games for me. No Alice and no desire to put up with Duke at full price.

For the sake of Duke history I'll buy it on sale under $20 at some point but not now.
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GameRager: I am trying to figure otu how to use my dynex webcam to take photos as I don't have the software cd that came with it which installed a program to manage pics/etc with it.
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TheCheese33: Did you check the Dynex website for drivers?
I got em now. Now gonna install and try to snap a few pics.
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Arteveld: Sentenced to 9 hours of DNF. REPENT!
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GameRager: I am trying to figure otu how to use my dynex webcam to take photos as I don't have the software cd that came with it which installed a program to manage pics/etc with it.
If you have Skype, you can go to Tools -> Options -> Video Settings and take snapshots. It'll save 'em in some crazy folder like /usersnstuff/updog/applicationdata/roaming/dippythatdawg/picthurrrs, at least if you're using Win7.
Box pics to start......sorry about the shit quality as I only have an old 1.3 Megapixel camera.


Text on pic 2:

Balls of Steel Edition Includes:
Collectible Bust of Duke Nukem....100-page hardcover book: History, Legacy & Legend: DNF art from the Vault.......DNF postcard series.....DNF radioactive emblem sticker......DNF comic book......DNF foldable papercraft(of Kings?)......DNF poker chips.......DNF mini-card deck......DNF radioactive emblem dice.......Certificate of Authenticity

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COME GET SOME! The King is back!

Cocked, loaded, and ready for action. Duke Nukem Forever is pure, unadulterated FUN. Bastard Alien hordes are stealing Earth's women. But nothing stands between Duke and his babes. Epic ass-kicking, massive weapons, giant explosions - yes, Inappropriate, insensitive and offensive - you bet. Get ready for the most bitchin' and bodacious time you're likely to ever have.
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Post edited June 14, 2011 by GameRager
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GameRager: Box pics to start......sorry about the shit quality as I only have an old 1.3 Megapixel camera.
I hate to pile on but they couldn't even do the balls of steel packaging right. I thought it would come in a big box or such. Instead it still comes in a crappy dvd case.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by Kabuto
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GameRager: Box pics to start......sorry about the shit quality as I only have an old 1.3 Megapixel camera.
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Kabuto: I hate to pile on but they couldn't even do the balls of steel packaging right. I thought it would come in a big box or such. Still a crappy dvd case I see.
It's a big box......I took pics from all four sides.
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Kabuto: I hate to pile on but they couldn't even do the balls of steel packaging right. I thought it would come in a big box or such. Still a crappy dvd case I see.
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GameRager: It's a big box......I took pics from all four sides.
Must be the camera then.

I'll watch on youtube for the proper effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tjtsd9byFM - PC version packaging.

Not impressed compared to the Witcher 2 set though. It's not bad. Not great either for me.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by Kabuto
More pics....here's the inside of the box opened, showing the words within and then one of the stuff on top & also one of the stuff on top by itself...including the dice, poker chips, and cards:
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Post edited June 14, 2011 by GameRager